Point It At the Deck! With Ernest Rister Part 1 Point It At the Deck! With Ernest Rister Part 1
Puny Listeners! Welcome back to a brand new episode of POINT IT AT THE DECK! with your invulnerable host Zod with special guest, Ernest... Point It At the Deck! With Ernest Rister Part 1

Puny Listeners! Welcome back to a brand new episode of POINT IT AT THE DECK! with your invulnerable host Zod with special guest, Ernest Rister, the most knowledgeable and loquacious SOB on the net as they are caught discussing, Steven Spielberg, the man Walt Disney, Song of the South, The Force Awakens, the once upon time luscious Haley Mills and the greatest Director that ever lived- JJ Abrams!

 Plus a few new surprises…. Don’t make us destroy you! Join us or DIE!

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A geek from the Midwest. I am about as corn fed American as you get and I love it. The 19 70s is still THE best decade of film- ever. If anyone, like me is inspired by that, you will do fine. Star Wars, Trek, Apes, Buffy, Avengers are on my geek radar among others...

  • RJD

    Ernest is a wealth of knowledge and is loads of fun to talk to. I missed this due to prior commitments but its great to listen and pretend i was there and just not have any questions.

    Rister is one of the original Talkbacker clan that when you look back, your just awed by the sheer talent that was around in the early days. Hes one of my favs

  • Abe

    Rister is a blast to listen to.

  • Abe

    I would tend to disagree. The prequel trilogies didn’t appeal to kids very well. I remember seeing kids bored to tears in Attack of the Clones.

  • Abe

    Zod, that’s not the only reason people complain about the Ewoks.

  • Abe

    I was instantly against the Solo/Fett film, but Rister talked me off the edge. I’m okay

  • I_am_better

    The Starlog-analogy of the trailer is a good one.

  • I_am_better

    The Temple of Doom-deleted scene was in the comic adaptation. I always wonder why it was deleted

  • Dee

    So you missed an opportunity to call this “Ernest goes to space”.

  • I_am_better

    “you consulted with a bag of Doritos…” LMAO

  • Abe

    Any more outbursts like that the next episode will be called Dee does the art.

  • Dee

    Well, they already got the Falcon wrong in the trailer.

  • Abe

    Here we go!

  • Dee

    The movements were too fast, the Falcon had no weight. The original one is more cumbersome. But no surprise here, JJ already designed the Enterprise like a speedboat.

  • I_am_better

    Well, the original was a model….

  • Dee

    Yeah so they should have emulated that with the CGI.

  • Dee

    Yub Nub!

  • Abe

    I think in the Star Wars universe it’s acceptable. It’s always been more fanciful.

  • Dee

    My point is that JJ does not get spaceships. Each spaceship has its own character, both in ST as in SW. They have all different movements and velocities, according to their size and function. They put a lot of thought into that in the original movies, it’s fair to criticize the new ones if they did not.

  • Abe

    Fair enough.

  • Dee

    JJ has not yet made a really good movie. So there you have a reason, if you needed one.

  • Conspiracyin559

    Star Wars is going to be fine. While I’m no fan of JJ’s silly Mystery Box concept…I think the roll out of this new beginning has been handled expertly; just enough info to pique interest, but not enough to connect all the dots.

  • Abe

    I am hoping Kathleen Kennedy takes JJ out back and beats the mystery box out of him. Then we’ll be fine.

  • Abe

    I thought Dio was the one that employed this level of hyperbole.

  • Conspiracyin559

    Bob Iger is a God amongst CEO’s,and the teams assembled at the various Disney properties are a Juggernaut of Commerce and Creativity. My god it is glorious.

    Now, Luke. I can see a Conflicted Luke…a Luke where perhaps events have occurred which have caused doubt over whether the actions of the Rebellion were always the right ones…where he is concerned about his own power being misused and thus retreated from day to day meddling in the affairs of the Galaxy….but not an “EVIL” Luke.

    And like I said…the fact such conjecture is even happening…the fact we are all talking out of our asses and wild speculation is occurring is a kind of magic not often seen in this age of total information overload where there are no secrets. Does remind me of the Starlog days…and its fun.

  • Dee

    Always two there are.

  • ErnestRister

    I think something’s screwy with my sound card.

  • Conspiracyin559

    There was a Hawking-esque vibe going on there.

  • Abe

    WiFi always gives me problems too on Skype. I go directly into the router now.

  • ErnestRister

    Yeah…it bothers me, like the deleted scene in Raiders where the old shaman warns Indy not to look at the Power of God. That’s how he beats Belloq, because he has better information. I don’t know why they cut that, either.

  • ErnestRister

    It wasn’t acting up when I was on the SUK shows, and I haven’t changed anything, so not sure what happened. As usual, I have no idea what’s going on. 😉

  • ErnestRister

    I have a good friend at Disney Interactive, and he’s met Iger, and says Iger is a really good guy.

  • ErnestRister

    A Brief History of Star Wars Memories.

  • Dee

    Regarding rumours: I remember when Macauly Culkin was rumoured as Anakin and Malcolm McDowell as Emperor.

  • ErnestRister

    Wasn’t the guy from Dawson’s Creek also “reported” to be in the running?

  • Dee

    Yes! I think that was when Episode 2 was in the planning.

  • Dee

    I also remember “it will look like a Flash Gordon serial, with spaceships looking and sounding like electric razors”

  • Conspiracyin559

    He’s just been masterful in his shepherding of such a massive company, if for no other reason than by letting people who know better than him do their jobs…not many CEO’s have that ability…to back away and let others run with the ball. He’s earned every cent we pay him.

  • Dee

    There was also a scene that explained how he survived the submarine ride.

  • Conspiracyin559

    I always assumed it was because U-Boats spent almost all their time running on the surface, especially in 1936…and it was a short day or two trip in the Mediterranean.

    Never knew there was deleted scene with a Shaman either…

  • ErnestRister

    It’s an extension of the scene where the man decodes the headpiece of the Staff of Ra. After he does that, he then warns Indy not to look into the Ark.

  • Dee

    That’s what I assumed as well, but they filmed a scene where Indy slung his whip around the periscope. The submarine only submerged for a few metres, so he could hold his head over the surface.

  • Dee
  • ErnestRister

    He understands that talent and relationships with talent are vital things, instead of being hostile to talent, playing hardball for the best deal. Eisner wasn’t Satan, but his style cost him crucial relationships. Iger is the opposite of that, and he’s been the best Disney chief since Walt.

  • I_am_better

    Might’ve been better than Christensen, actually

  • ErnestRister

    Just a guess, but I have a hunch it is being piloted by someone who doesn’t know how to fly it. I hope Threepio isn’t on board.

  • Dee
  • Dee

    Nunb Nien? I am in!

  • Conspiracyin559

    I dunno…the Falcon was pretty agile in that asteroid field. She may not look like much, but she’s got it where it counts Dee

  • ErnestRister

    I’m going to guess Boyego. He’s a stormtrooper, may not have a clue how to fly the Falcon.

    “But who’s going to fly it, kid? You?”

  • Dee

    I say the movements looked still considerably different than in the new trailer. I think they flipped the ship twice as often to get a rousing money shot for the trailer. But I honestly miss the feeling of the old Falcon. It’s weird they did not use a shot that showed the distinctive outlines well enough as well.

  • Conspiracyin559

    I’d gladly transport kidnapped kids being sold to Sri Lankan sweat shops to have one of those.

  • Conspiracyin559

    There has never been a CG Spaceship that can compare with a physical model. The human eye somehow can tell the difference between something that actually exists and something that doesn’t. As you say…the models just moved right…because they were limited by the physical world…even programmed with these restrictions…CG just never “feel” right.

    Sadly…its 2015…so like it or not..CG will rule the day. At least the sets are mostly physical this time…that will make a HUGE difference in feel.

  • ErnestRister

    I think CGI leads directors to find different angles than they could normally, whereas in motion control model shots, you’re more inherently limited.

    We don’t see them very long, but the X-Wings seemed fine in those few seconds.

  • Conspiracyin559

    Agreed about the X-Wings. That was a serious money shot…and it felt right for the brief moment we saw it. Will be interesting to see to what degree they used models, if at all…and if they’ve solved the “Weight” and spacial issues that so many have with CG.

    One thing was for certain…using real locations has already paid off…that opening shot in the teaser in the desert…the natural light, the actor placed in real terrain and not standing on and in front of a green screen…that’s Star Wars

  • ErnestRister

    “Now, Luke. I can see a Conflicted Luke…a Luke where perhaps events
    have occurred which have caused doubt over whether the actions of the
    Rebellion were always the right ones…where he is concerned about his
    own power being misused and thus retreated from day to day meddling in
    the affairs of the Galaxy….but not an “EVIL” Luke.”

    Yeah — training a very small new group of Jedi as he was told by Yoda (“You must pass on what you have learned.”) Not wanting the Jedi to get involved in the ongoing wars. Then finally compelled to get involved in the third act, and he saves the day and/or dies.

  • ErnestRister

    And the fact that it’s directing for the lens instead of a master shot/close up/close up/medium shot/close up…Steven Spielberg choreographed the Order 66 slaughter in Revenge of the Sith (in animatics) and when the camera tilted down to show the feet of the Clone Troopers suddenly coming to a stop, you could tell that wasn’t Lucas, it’s not how he directs, but it sure did feel like Spielberg, who has staging for the lens in his blood. Spielberg also designed parts of the end duel with Anakin and Obi-Wan, and that dragon/Grievous chase.

  • ErnestRister

    Boba Fett and Solo knowing each other gives the moment in Empire when Fett figures out the Falcon’s “garbage” trick some extra dimension. It seems likely that Solo and Fett would know each other since they both spent time around Jabba.

  • Dee

    I never understood why they edited that chase down to a mere seconds. ROTS has barely an uninterrupted action scene.

  • ErnestRister

    The movie was already running long…the original animatics for the Greivous chase are a bit wacka-doodle. Spielberg clearly going, “Well, lets just mess around see what happens…”

  • I_am_better

    Phil Tippett. Man is a legend

  • Col. Tigh-Fighter

    Ewoks should be burnt for public health reasons.

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Only when they attack do they go under.

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Not the kids I took.

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Yep. Ryan, one expression, phllipee

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Only hookers and fat people dislike ewoks….

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    I punched a kid in the mouth in the 6th grade for bashing JEDI. Got 3 days after school detention and a “talking to.” So worth it.

  • ErnestRister

    Don’t mess with us Southern boys.

  • ErnestRister

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    The same joke was also in Octopussy released the same summer. Odd

  • Conspiracyin559

    Han won’t make it out alive…if not this film certainly the next. It’s what everyone involved wanted..except George. I can see Kasdan and Ford both doing a happy dance at giving Han the heroic end they always desired.

    I see Luke continuing on in the background…a mentor..a sage…but wary of much more. We’ll know in less than a year. If Hamill doesn’t start growing out his beard again soon…for Ep.8 filming…that will say much.

  • CreepyThinMan

    STFU ABOUT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING PORTFOLIO OR I’LL FIND A WAY TO REACH THROUGH MY FUCKING COMPUTER SCREEN TO YOURS AND DO THIS…..
    https://i.4cdn.org/b/1422140657434.gif
    !!!FACT!!!

  • ErnestRister

    I’m confused. Who is talking about their portfolio? I have no idea what’s going on.

  • Orcus

    Orcus is gonna have to queue this one up…

  • Conspiracyin559

    Its the Iger/Disney talk that set Creepy off. I’m rabidly Pro-Disney…I invest in them. lmao.

  • ErnestRister

    I’m “cautiously optimistic Disney”.

  • RJD

    woulda have been great

  • RJD

    Even better

  • RJD

    Starlog. Man I miss that

  • RJD

    Lol

    DEE VS DIO..

    THE JJ EPISODE

  • RJD

    It’s been thirty years

    It’s been upgraded

  • RJD

    Starlog. Aaawww

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Orcus is up in two weeks!

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    I thought it was my computer pre virus, but now post virus it does that odd robot thing to voices on occasions.

  • Listening now, always good to hear from The Rist. That’s what I’m calling him now.

  • The Rist is to be trusted on all things!

  • Orcus

    Cthulhu help us

  • ErnestRister

    I once made a bet that I would drink my own urine if Return of the King beat Mystic River for Best Screenplay at the Oscars.

    That was a bad night.

  • To be fair, neither of those should have won. City of God alllllllll the way!

  • RJD

    There may come a day when men will drink their own urine. But today is not that … What ..? Oh. Never mind

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    I drink my own urine, so what? I like the taste.

  • RevengeofZodLovesMaude

    Irvin Kershner never made a good movie before or after Empire so…