How the hell did American Sniper dominate the box office? How the hell did American Sniper dominate the box office?
A few weeks back, the Shut Up Kids podcast had John Ary on to discuss our Top 3 and Worst 3 films of 2014.... How the hell did American Sniper dominate the box office?

A few weeks back, the Shut Up Kids podcast had John Ary on to discuss our Top 3 and Worst 3 films of 2014. Among the mentioned (by John, actually) was Clint Eastwood’s Jersey Boys abomination. The conversation then turned to how we dislike much of Eastwood’s body of work lately and how unenthusiastic I was to see American Sniper. Well, I still don’t really want to see it but millions and millions of people did, blowing the box office open this past weekend with over $105 million dollars. “How the hell did this happen,” I asked myself. There was literally no way this film should have done anywhere close to that number and here’s a few reasons why.


It wasn’t even supposed to come out yet.
The funniest thing about American Sniper’s success is that it wasn’t intended to come out until next Christmas. That’s right. Clint usually puts out one film a year and 2014’s was the aforementioned Jersey Boys. However, executives at Warner Brothers saw a rough cut of Sniper over this past summer and opted to push it forward by a year.

January sucks.
This was actually a topic on the last Supernaughts debate show and even had one co-host (whose name I won’t mention, cough, RJD, cough) mention that with films like Blackhat and American Sniper coming out, what do people plan to Netflix over the weekend? It was a fair question and when I heard the podcast I laughed and thought he was dead on. January tends to be where movies are released to die out fast so they can be on DVDs as soon as possible. But a funny thing happened on the way to the morgue for American Sniper, it made the most money for a January opening. Ever. Yes, adjusting for inflation, it beat out James Cameron’s Avatar which made $74.4 million in its opening.

IMAX and Rated R don’t really mix.
The big IMAX movies are the eye-candy, PG-13 ones (superheroes, explosions, kid-friendly stuff, etc.). The last Rated R movie to do really great IMAX numbers in its release was Ridley Scott’s Prometheus. Well, American Sniper beat that out too, making over $11.5 million in IMAX sales this past weekend.

This wasn’t a sequel.
Nor was this a comedy or straight up action film or a film about Jesus Christ. This was a biopic. And a Rated R biopic has no reason to make so much money. But from Friday to Sunday, American Sniper made $89.5 million dollars, beating out Rated R openings such as The Hangover Part II and The Passion of the Christ. The only one it trails is The Matrix: Reloaded, which was one of the most highly anticipated sequels of all time.

Eastwood doesn’t make bank.
His highest grossing movie of all time is Gran Torino. All in, it made $149 million dollars. American Sniper should beat that by next weekend.


That’s some crazy stuff for a movie to overcome. So how exactly did American Sniper do it?


Cyber-thrillers are hard to pull off.
Nobody wants to stare at someone staring at a computer screen, even if that person is Thor himself. Michael Mann’s latest film, Blackhat, cost over $70 million dollars to make and made a whopping $4 million dollars. Speculation is that Blackhat execs thought this weekend was a good one (the following weekend after Taken 3 would come out) but didn’t expect the power of American Sniper. That could be true but I personally think that cyber-thrillers aren’t big sells anyway. Even with the worldwide talk over the recent Sony hackings, people are connected to computers all of the time – why watch a movie about a guy sitting in front of a computer? Boring! But a patriotic sniper or a badass Liam Neeson finding people taken from him? Hell yes!

Oscar nominations still mean something to some people.
Most people I know (and a lot of people who contribute to this site) hate the Oscars. But it seems that movies that get nominations tend to get a lot of interest from the general public. According to Box Office Mojo (where most of my lovely numbers and percentages for this article are coming from), post-nominated-movies saw a bump in sales anywhere from 18% – 32%. Most moviegoers want to see the Oscar nominated films.

Don’t mess with Texas.
Or any conservative, heartland state in the United States. Moviegoers from Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma and New Mexico (to name a few) came out in droves this past weekend to see American Sniper.


I still have little interest in seeing this film but it looks like I am in the minority. The film overcame some crazy odds and will certainly result in numerous similar films to go into production. Will those fair as well? I doubt it. But after this past weekend, seeing any film going crazy at the box office won’t surprise me ever again.

These are just my thoughts on why American Sniper did what it did. Have more to add to the conversation or something to dispute? Please comment below!

-Dan

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  • Mr Nick Nightly

    Man, it’s all about ‘murica. Everyone thinks they are seeing the story of the most American man, ever, and they enjoy watching him kill foreigners.

  • Abe

    Cinemascore says this movie is pulling an A+. I think it’s probably a must see now.

  • Fate_Slistcrunch

    I think you should go to a local theater and poll the crowd, ha.

  • CreepyThinMan

    You know who pays to see propaganda like this? Mindless Republicans/Conservatives/sociopaths of the FPS Generation who love the idea of randomly shooting women and children with impunity. People who still live in their fantasy dream world that this is 1946 and the US has just won WWII. But that was a long time ago and now they’re the country of Vietnam, Watergate, Iran-Contra, Iraq parts 1&2, illegal invasion of countries that did not attack them, torture and murder.

    The USA has no honor, no democracy and is a banking/corporate/military plutocracy with no hope or future as their manufacturing base is shipped to third world slave labor countries like India, Mexico and China, the latter of which will dominate the world economy for the next century and whose citizens are filling up American colleges and universities.

    American’s no longer strive for anything. They dream of easy money and fame which explains the rise of “reality tv” and how scum like Paris Hilton or The Kardashians can become famous. Hard work doesn’t mean anything to them anymore which is why a movie like American Sniper appeals to them; the idea of being regarded as a “war hero” for sitting on your ass and shooting people from afar with little or no effort in a country they have no business being in apart from acting as muscle for oil conglomerates and military defense contractors.

    American Sniper is nothing but the whitewashing and glorification of a fucking wannabe cowboy who got what he deserved and his death was both poetic and ironic. The 25 year old wanker who offed him said he did so because of PTSD. Bullshit. Kyle was the type that liked to brag and I’d bet that he was running his mouth off to the punk who punched his ticket and proved that Mr. Badass Sniper was good at killing people from a distance but couldn’t hack it up close which is why he’s taking a dirt nap!!!FACT!!!
    http://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk

  • Dee

    Maybe because it’s a sneaky way to kill as well? “See terrorists, we can hit you when you don’t expect it too!”

  • watched it yesterday. I thought it was good. Had some BS moments, but i’m not surprised people went for critically acclaimed Eastwood movie starring Cooper , rather than critically panned Michael Mann movie starring Hemsworth .

  • Abe

    I’m certainly no Republican, but it’s not like hard core Democrats weren’t lining up for Michael Moore’s propaganda.

  • Dee

    I said it before and I say it again: Reduce the “hacking scenes” in a cyber thriller to an absolute minimum and avoid to show the screen. The thing that is interesting about hacking is the outcome only.

  • Dee

    Michael Moore had his time in the sun. He does not have anything to say anymore, now that his favourite target George W. is retired.

  • I_am_better

    Wasn’t this story also being eyed by Spielberg, before Eastwood got on board? Kinda like Interstellar was. Projects that are snubbed by the ‘Berg have become HUGE nowadays

  • Fate_Slistcrunch

    Ha, I think your comments inspired me to add that point in.

  • CreepyThinMan

    But what was Michael Moore promoting that was bad? Exposing corporate/government collusion? The lies used to start the war in Iraq which got thousands of soldiers killed/injured for no good fucking reason? The obsessive gun culture that equates weapons with freedom and promotes hostility/aggression which directly lead to Columbine? That the US is the only industrialized country in the world that doesn’t have socialized healthcare while its insurance industry is a fucking disgrace? So you can call what Michael Moore does as “propaganda” but true propaganda is employed by those who want to cheat, steal and murder and Moore doesn’t promote any such thing unlike Conservatives who regularly lie to their low information followers, no different than what goes on in oppressive countries!!!FACT!!!

  • CreepyThinMan

    Spielberg found out that Kyle was a sociopath who enjoyed killing people and that’s why he dropped out!!!FACT!!!

  • CreepyThinMan

    At the very least, show Hemsworth pumping that Asian chicks ass while she’s typing on the keyboard!!!FACT!!!

  • Abe

    Michael Moore’s “propaganda” may not have gotten anyone killed or started a war, but when you feel the need to massage, omit, or change the facts to help strengthen your argument it means you don’t believe your argument is valid at all. That makes my blood boil. I honestly believe that in the arena of ideas the left can defeat the right without tricks without lies. Straight up one on one. Michael Moore doesn’t feel the same so fuck him. I don’t need him or want him on my side.

  • I_am_better

    Yeah. And maybe he didn’t find a place to add his usual sentimental cheese

  • Abe

    Also, Janusz Kaminski flooding a sniper with overhead light would have made him too easy to spot.

  • I_am_better

    Win! Also the murky film stock would make it impossible for the sniper to see anything through the scope.

  • Mr Nick Nightly

    I know several people who have seen it and their love for it comes off as patriotic duty.

  • CreepyThinMan

    I can’t agree on that but if you said “I hate him because he’s a live action Peter Griffin ” then I could get behind that!!!FACT!!!

  • Slothiplicity

    I saw this over the weekend. It was good. But not great. But there really isn’t anything else at the theater worth seeing. And Americans love patriotic war stories. Especially when they’re true.

  • Bop

    I would almost think that as soon as the word American appears in the movie title people in the States would love to see it.

  • Bop

    I would almost think Asi wrote this, but then I saw your name, Creepy.

  • Nope Dan, you’re not the only one with no interest in seeing it.

  • RJD

    How can they shoot women and children ?

    Easy. Just don’t lead them as much

  • RJD

    Most of moores stuff turned into movie making fiction. I liked him early on. His tv show was fun. But once you see he’s lying as much aS the other side. The shut he pulls runs thin

  • RJD

    Good point

  • RJD

    But the real question is. Can beat cooper.act

  • Kylo Ronin

    I’ll go see it tomorrow. Sloth below says it’s good but then he laughed at Movie 43 so I’m taking anything he says with the proverbial salt of grain.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Forgot to mention that Razz also said some good stuff as well. Hmm.

  • CreepyThinMan

    Is that a good or bad thing? Besdies, it’s impossible that he wrote it since it doesn’t have FUCKJJABRAMSCUTOFFHISHEADSHITDOWNHISNECKRAPEHISCORPSE!!!FACT!!!

  • CreepyThinMan

    Didn’t work for American Psycho!!!FACT!!!
    http://youtu.be/cuTmyIOQIhw

  • CreepyThinMan
  • Conspiracyin559

    Kool Aid films always attract the unthinking minions….this is the Conservative equivalent of Fahrenheit 9/11.

  • CreepyThinMan

    Fucking tea bagger propaganda hurrdurr #igetwetfortroops pile of shit. Might as well slap a bumper sticker across your fucking forehead saying you bottom for soldiers you pleb scum!!!FACT!!!

  • CreepyThinMan

    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in guerilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo!!!FACT!!!

  • Dan, as Michael Bay says in his audio commentary for the DVD of Armageddon, uoting an advice his adoptive grandfather gave him, “don’t ever understimate the midwest biblebelt for selling”. Seems his grandad was quite right.

  • Maybe Spielberg is getting senile. Certainly crowning JJ Abrams as his successor was already a strong indication of him losing his mental faculties.

  • I have varied interests.

  • Wait until the next republican patsy frontman for big business president gets elected.

  • I think movies should be forbidden to have “American” or any other nationality name in their titles. Just saying.

  • Mr Nick Nightly

    He also said that Shia Lebouf is “the next Tom Hanks.” What a shitty thing to say about Shia.

  • Mr Nick Nightly

    They need to make hacking look like it did in the 90s, where you fly through shittily rendered 3-D hallways and stuff.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    As Charlie Brown would say; ” AUUUUUGH!”

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I read the book, I’m huge fan of history and military history in particular. The guy was, shall we say, “not conflicted” about his motivations. He had a strong faith, he felt his actions were all justified and honorable. He was similar to Audie Murphy and Alvin York in this respect.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Warriors are a respected and necessary part of cultures worldwide. US policies that choose to invade every speck on the map are another matter.
    Personally I think history will look at Iraq as the sequel to Vietnam-lots of death and destruction followed by regional collapse.
    We’re in the collapse phase now.

  • Stalkeye

    “Cuz Murikans just lubs thar guns!”

    In al seriousness, AS was a Good film and Eastwood’s best since Gran Torino.
    Fucking “Dirty Harry” still got it! I would definitely favor this over the overrated Hurt Locker due to Cooper’s performance as Kyle who joined the Navy to fight terrorism only to realize that War, is actually Hell.

    Kyle’s personal conflicts between duty and Family added more credibility to the Biopic and Yes, he was a Badass sniper. However, his semi reluctance to assassinate a Islamic Child extremist further demonstrated his humanity and the biggest irony was that he went through Four tours only to be killed by A fucking American who he tried to help!!!

    The ending had (unintentionally) a sad perspective on American Gun Culture.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I’m guessing that women drove a lot of it. The ad has that bit where he calls his wife and sobs “Baby I’m ready to come home”. Certain women eat that shit up.

  • Stalkeye

    In other words; No Captain America? WTF!

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Forget it, he’s rolling.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Asi, Democrat or Republican, they’re both whores for big money.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    We haven’t invaded Portugal…yet.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I don’t see it as propaganda, although many will go to it expecting that “America Fuck yeah” factor.
    Enemy at the Gates was also a film about a sniper. I like it but it doesn’t make me a communist.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I’ll wait for it on cable.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Again I only read the book but what I took away from it is that he enthusiastically went to war and that in the end the war claimed him.
    I don’t see that as propaganda. It’s tragic.

  • Abe

    Tim’s dropping some knowledge today!

  • Tim R.R. Something

    How many sniper movies are we going to get now? Will it become a genre?
    “Canadian Sniper” doesn’t sound bad ass at all.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    You haven’t lived until you’ve seen horses having sex. fact.

  • ErnestRister

    Clint Eastwood is my favorite American director. He’s done some junk to stay busy (The Rookie, Space Cowboys, Absolute Power, Blood Work) and he’s been off his game the last few years (Invictus, The Hereafter, Changeling, Jersey Boys, Hoover), but I so admire his rejection of affectation and his total devotion to his actors. He’s an incredible director of actors — Sean Penn said he was the only “legend” he ever worked with in Hollywood who actually lived up to their reputation. Toss in Eastwood’s love for ambiguity, you get some powerful adult cinema. Many actors have delivered their best work in his movies — see Kevin Costner in A Perfect World. Still blows my mind that he scores many of his films. I love the man’s work. Glad to see the guy close out his career with a smash hit.

  • ErnestRister

    All politicians are frontmen for big business. Big Pharma successfully lobbied to exclude foreign drug purchases from Canada in the Affordable Care Act. Health Insurers are going to make out like bandits. Monied interests contribute to campaigns and expect consideration in return. Rupert Murdoch donated to Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Even the Koch Brothers donate to certain democrats when it is in their interest.

  • Stalkeye

    Just that some people will go all jingoistic for it. What struck me the most about this Film, was the Man behind the Rifle and not so much his Kill counts. Enemy at the gates is another good one BTW. Ed Harris barely disappoints!

  • ErnestRister

    The irony is that Michael Moore made over $100 million off of the Iraq war, dresses like a poor shlub, but owns four houses, sued Bob and Harvey for more profits and from who I’ve known who’ve worked with him, he is an incredible diva prick asshole. “Once you fly first class, it’s so hard to go back.” — Michael Moore.

  • ErnestRister

    One thing missed in the article…the 4th highest rated cable network in America has been pimping the hell out of this movie for over a month.

  • Stalkeye

    Upvote for your (Always) brutal honesty, Friend.

    However, that being said, I enjoyed the Film for what it was or at least Cooper’s performance. If Kyle was truly the opposite of what was portrayed on the Silver screen, then it is in fact Whitewashing.

    I can’t comment until I gather all the facts.

    “They dream of easy money and fame which explains the rise of “reality tv” and how scum like Paris Hilton or The Kardashians can become famous. ”

    Can’t argue with that.

  • ErnestRister

    Lincoln, War Horse, and Tintin are wonderful films, and hardly examples of a man losing his mental faculties. Now he’s lensing a film written by the Coen Brothers. Spielberg always has about five projects on his plate, some come and go and are picked up by others. Spielberg’s produced many films directed by Eastwood, no shocker to see the man pass Sniper to him when he cleared his slate to do the Coen Bros. film.

  • Stalkeye

    “The lies used to start the war in Iraq which got thousands of soldiers killed/injured for no good fucking reason? The obsessive gun culture that equates weapons with freedom and promotes hostility/aggression which directly lead to Columbine? That the US is the only industrialized country in the world that doesn’t have socialized healthcare while its insurance industry is a fucking disgrace? ”

  • Stalkeye

    “Rupert Murdoch donated to Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Even the Koch Brothers donate to certain democrats when it is in their interest.”

    Sad, but true.

  • Stalkeye

    AS was less disappointing than say, The Imitation Game at least.

  • Stalkeye

    Best line or rather one of the best lines;
    “I might as well join the Fucking peace Corps”!

  • ErnestRister

    I hate…HATE politics. Such a damn waste of people’s time. We have two giant organizations acting out of complete self interest lying all day long to the public and people buy into one side’s bullshit or the other side’s bullshit, then they form an allegiance to a donkey or an elephant and then argue about it all day long on Facebook.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    well said.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    People bring their own baggage for sure.

  • Stalkeye

    I agree and if you remember me from AICN, I often got into it with a few Nutbags during Herc’s threads.
    I have beliefs that are both liberal and conservative ergo I feel more of a centrist. However, It’s my civic duty to

    A.)Vote

    annnnndddd

    B.) Support the lesser of the two evils.

    Tagline; No matter who wins, we all lose?
    Rist, would you for an allegiance to a Mouse especially if the party’s Mascot was Mickey Mouse? 😛

    I keed!

  • Stalkeye

    Damn straight!

  • ErnestRister

    Saw that Wahlberg sniper movie Shooter last week on Netflix…first hour is effective then it devolves into bizarre paranoid nonsense.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Don’t even remember that one.

  • ErnestRister

    No. My allegiance to that company is solely based on those moments when they do fantastic work and make the world a better, happier place. I love and respect Walt — no secret he’s a personal hero — but Eisner and Katzenberg not so much. Iger is a fantastic steward.

  • ErnestRister

    Don’t watch it. Complete waste of time. Actually some good performances, but man that screenplay goes into koo-koo land by the end.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Brad Pitt is the biggest loser here. He must be hurting and confused.

  • Stalkeye

    LOL I know, but I couldn’t resist. Walty was a genius and I respect your hero worship.
    Hey, Kirby and Lee (As in Bruce Lee) are my picks. (0:’

  • Lincoln is pretty good but not the excellent movie it believes it is.
    War Horse is a bloody travesty and one of the most horrible trite emotional manipulation sentimentalism nonsense that Spielberg ever made in a career made of cheap sentimentalism.
    Tintin: I can’t be arsed with that..

    Spilberg filming a script by the Coens: I never saw that coming. It’s almost like a dare taken. I’m curious.

  • The republicans, however, take that as a matter of pride.

  • Well, he gets a pass because the name was already establsihed and it would be stupid to change it, anyway. But man, was i on the fence with the first movie until i saw the first pics and saw the movie. All rules have exceptions, and Cap Am has due to precedence, his name already existed. Other then that, the rule should be enforced with extreme prejudice.

  • Something tells me he no longer thinks that about The Beef.

  • Mr Nick Nightly

    I haven’t seen it so I have no opinion but I can clearly see that a lot of people misunderstood the movie from what you just said.

  • ErnestRister
  • Stalkeye

    And lets not forget about these guys who also have “America(n)”

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4d/G.I._Joe_A_Real_American_Hero_Vol._2_cover.jpg

  • ErnestRister

    I grew up in a small town in Central Texas. The man who lived across the street was a war vet with a Dutch wife and five kids. Lost one kid hours after he was born to a heart defect. Almost lost another child when she drowned in a pool but was revived. Next to my dad and my Uncle Ed, he’s the most decent and honorable man I’ve had the pleasure of knowing.

    Oh, and he’s the sitting Republican Congressman in Washington for our district. For some strange odd reason, I’ve never seen him do all the things Democrats and Leftists seem to think Evil Republicans do…how many Republicans do you actually know, Asi?

    He’s a HUGE film buff, too. Introduced me to Citizen Kane and Woody Allen when I was a teen.

  • ErnestRister

    Portugal invaded the Americas first! I say we get the surviving Native nations together and deliver some payback! 😉

  • ErnestRister

  • I_am_better

    Oops. I forgot that

  • Stalkeye

    “Or any conservative, heartland state in the United States. Moviegoers from Texas, Tennessee, Oklahoma and New Mexico (to name a few) came out in droves this past weekend to see American Sniper.”

    And that’s an obvious indication of those watching the Film for the wrong reasons.

  • Stalkeye

    But they were the first to abolish Slavery long before America. 😛

  • Stalkeye

    Political affiliations aside, Clint is da man!

  • Bop

    You are you and Asi is Asi. I need to distinguish between you both.

  • Bop

    I wish Eastwood directed a Dirty Harry clone.

  • Bop

    He, he.

  • Bop

    Even worse, no American Ninja?

  • Bop

    I loathe politics. Nothing good comes from it. It’s all a big budget Hollywood movie.

  • ErnestRister

  • Kylo Ronin

    *aigh* No love for the JTF-2?

  • Kylo Ronin

    I’d say it’s basically the left wing equivalent of the action genre.

  • Kylo Ronin

    The ironic thing is that the stupid romance subplot existed. But the Ed Harris character? Complete fiction.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Yeah, pretty much on the spot.

  • Stalkeye

    Tee hee.

  • Kylo Ronin

    What about American Beauty? Or America by Simon & Garfunkel? Or American Psycho? Or American Gangster? Or American History X? Or The American?

  • Kylo Ronin

    Far from it.

  • Stalkeye

    Well that sucks.

  • Kylo Ronin

    First time I’ve seen an Eastwood movie on the big screen. Wow. Yeah, it’s not great and it’ll end up being overrated but it’s a really solid movie. Peach called it.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Sorry to burst your bubble, mang.

  • Kylo Ronin

    This is his last film? In that case, what a way to retire………..

  • Stalkeye

    One of the more amusing things about American Sniper is the frequent use of this certain iconic image.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lpzjg7_3WDY/UW_Z5TrE4HI/AAAAAAAAAqQ/5xutJOrXGs4/s1600/chris_kyle_4.jpg

  • Eastwood has been in quite some WWII movies. The irony has not escaped me.

  • You should have seen UNFORGIVEN on the big screen.

  • I have two friends of mine who already watched the movie. They resumed their opinions to a simple acronym: “NRA”.

  • Space Cowboys is not junk. The science is pretty dodgy, but not the movie itself. It’s not great but it’s OK. I did watched it in NYC, so it has some pleasant memories attached to it. It was a double bill i did with that and the first X-Men movie.

  • And yet the most scoring snipers in Afghanistan War were canadians.

    Canadians is a case of Beware The Nice Ones. You never want to be on the wrong side of a nice guy!

    Also, the story about finnish sniper Simo Häyhä during the Winter War (back during WWII) is so incredible that to make a movie about him Hollywood would need to tone down his real exploits for fear the audiences wouldn’t believe. He makes the story of American Sniper look like a nice stroll in the park, and unlike the guy in AS, Häyhä really had counter snipers who tried to kill him especifically, and when he killed his mirror snipers, the russians had to resort to artillery shelling in desperation. Also, Häyhä never used a scope, as he thought the ice frost hindered his aim. Just reading about his exploits during WWII is pure mindbllowing stuff.

  • Welcome to the shit movies of Antoine Fuckqua.

  • Fuck American Ninja up it’s fucking ass! Cannon Pictures trash shit!

  • *barf*

  • Zing!!!

  • Geostrategic lesson: Portugal is one of the founding nations of NATO. Also, you guys have a base in Azores, which is Portuguese. So you are already here. Also, we are getting more american tourists recently.
    And i once invaded America, for two weeks. I got there first.
    You guys could benefit from an invasion of my country, you would find and learn about some proper great traditional cuisine, wines and beer.

  • Portugal actually didn’t fare too bad in regard to the natives, our jesuits even tried to protect them. There is not much of an history among us as like the americans’s exterminations of their native indians. Hell, the first thing the portuguese did when they arrived to the Americas was to mate and mix with the local indian beauties!

  • What? Nothing says losing your mind better than to kiss-ass to JarJar.

  • American Beauty, American Psycho and American History X are ironic titles.

    The American is descriptive, since they changed the character’s nationality from british to american, the story’s original title is “A Very Private Gentleman”, which i doub an american financed movie would go for it, also, it works with a level of irony too to the title.

    My law is to be enforced now. What has been done already stays, to justify.

    American Gangster is a strange title, could had been something else entirely and the story would be the same. Maybe they were trying for irony too.

    There is too many singers singing about america with america in the titles already. It was already silly in the 1970s, it’s twice silly now.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    This scene alone is better than just about every other western ever nmade.

  • Stalkeye
  • Tim R.R. Something

    Interesting.

  • Stalkeye
  • Tim R.R. Something

    Are you all so reflexively anti American? It sure sounds like it. 🙁

  • Stalkeye

    LOL And what, pray tell are your favorite Cannon Films?
    …well, besides Lifeforce? 😛

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Clint has had a great career and I think movies like Unforgiven more than make up for all the mass market swill he had to shovel out.

  • Stalkeye

    MM is right about the questionable irony of releasing American Sniper around MLK’s Birthday. That being said, Selma was pretty good and didn’t sugar coat MLK in the least bit. In fact, it Humanized him more than the previous King biopics.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    The Russians claim he existed, the Germans say there is no evidence.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    See? Nobody talk to this Portugese invader. Dirty oppressor!

  • Stalkeye

    Training day was awesome.
    Don’t hate. 😛

  • It’s a good script that hides the shit of Fuckqua.

  • You’re being oppressed! See the violence inherent in the system.

  • He has two mods: where he makes market oriented movies and his more personal movies. This strategy has worked well for him and it sits well with who he is as a person, who is both a mass audience star but also with artistic aspirations. It doesn’t work for all directors, however, and even himself all the time.

    If this is his last movie, so be it, he has earned the right to rest if he so chooses to.

  • Lifeforce, Runaway Train, The Hitcher (was released by them though not financed by them), and i know there is one or two more roper decent movies released by them, but they are a very small microscopic minority.

  • It’s that attitude right there that makes us so critical. Though to be fair, it’s just the conservative evangelist gun-nut nuts that bewilder us. It’s like looking at aliens from planet Clown.

  • Stalkeye

    Regardless, the Film was very good overall and Fuqua’s direction almost gave off a Micheal Mann vibe. You don’t dig him,? fine. But he has made some enjoyable films one of them Tears of the Sun, the other, The Equalizer remake which i expected it to suck but to my surprise, i liked it for what it was.

  • Stalkeye

    Hitcher was fucking brilliant. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get into Runaway train. Cannon had some great gems among the stinkers;

    Street Smart
    Delta Force
    10 to Midnight
    Just to name a few.

    Ironically, it was due to the financial flop of both MOTU and Superman quest for peace that led to the company’s demise. Checkout the upcoming documentary (June 2015) for the entire scoop.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Ha! You’re something. Don’t ever change.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I’ve fired similar rifles (not at people) and I can tell you that it is not easy.
    Unlike in every movie I’ve ever seen, the cross hairs are not still. Any body movement causes the sight to move around. To place a shot where you want it requires that you relax and still your body, you pause your breathing. After all of that, on a scoped rifle like this the aim point will bob up and down-that’s your heartbeat!
    Back in the day I could shoot a coin (US quarter) off of a coffee cup at 200 yards, while at the same time with open, or ” iron ” sights I could only hit a paper plate. Now military snipers are routinely taking shots at 500-1000 yards.
    The physical control required by these military snipers is Olympian.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Well, you know how the Russians are. Just like us…………..

  • Kylo Ronin

    But that’s my point. You made it seem like American shouldn’t be in the title, regardless of irony or not.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Well shit, the theater didn’t do a rerelease of it. Did get the chance to see the rerelease of Dirty Harry so there’s that.

  • Well played.

  • From now on, even in irony, shouldn’t. It’s dead tired and actually pretty offensive.

  • Stalkeye

    http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PEZCHe0TL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    I agree that ‘murica’ has its share of Zealot gun toting loonies and of course there’s the irresponsibility of the NRA, however, compared to those Extremist Islamic Fuckers, who would kill innocents because of some silly Periodical cartoon, they’re (Americans) tame!

    (Well, except for those Anti abortion fanatics, who would shoot up a Clinic.)

  • Stalkeye

    LMAO

  • Two wrongs do not make a right, and in a modern democracy, there shouldn’t be any element of society that would need to be compared to the Islamist Extremists to look less bad in comparison, you know what i mean?
    There are other countries with gun culture which don’t g to the extremes of gun-nut culture. Finland, the country of our friend I-Am-Better, has a gun culture and it is one of the countries with the most guns per inhabitant. The reason is that many people live in small villages or isolated in the middle of the woods and hunting guns are fundamental to defense against wild beats and hunting, which is still an important economic element in Finnish society.
    A gun culture associated to hunting or within the military is acceptable and even logical that exists. Outside that is just too weird and scary. No matter their justifications, in the end they just look lie subversive elements of society with a strange dangerous and very scary fetish.

  • Stalkeye

    “Two wrongs do not make a right, and in a modern democracy, there shouldn’t be any element of society that would need to be compared to the Islamist Extremists to look less bad in comparison, you know what i mean?”

    As always, its about the lesser of the two evils.
    America has its flaws as we both know. however, the aforementioned Islamic system is truly fucking evil and seriously misguided. Bombs being strapped on Women and children, Women being stoned to death under accusations of adultery, decapitations, death to those who think “outside the box”, etc . all because of their Religion.

    Whenever there’s something Un PC or offensive here, we do the more rational thing and that’s Protest via assembly, not shoot up innocent shoppers in a Supermarket if you know what I mean.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    “guns are fundamental to defense against wild beats and hunting”
    It’s always beats.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    Asi you will now counter with a 1,000 word essay on Beets in European cuisine.

  • Stalkeye

    LMAO “Oh noes you didn’t”!!
    You’re on a roll, Meng.

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/23/7a/d5237a8c767ac91c92ddc43f962731bc.jpg

    That Fred Amsen guy needs a Barber like JML needs better script, production and actors for his Zombie “masterpiece” series.

    Jus sayin.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    They do characters, always changing wigs. It’s a great show. Living in Vermont I am surrounded by these characters.

  • Tim R.R. Something

    I’m sorry I wasn’t listening.

  • sawyersolo

    great site u guys have here…lots of content…laid out nicely

  • Dee

    Thank you!

  • sawyersolo

    I’m still over at Talkbacker:

    here’s one: http://talkbacker.com/movies/a

  • sawyersolo
  • Bop

    Cannon Pictures was awesome, Asi. I don’t understand why you hate it so much.

  • The answer is all too obvious: they made shit movies.

  • Keep giving arguments.

  • However, your country is always in danger of falling into the hands of the more religious extremists as proved by the Bush presidency. which wanted to implement reforms that would make the USA closer to a the western equivalent of Iran or Saudi Arabia. This extremists also believe there is only version of democracy, and that is one democracy for the god-fearing and under god, and the rest should either comply or fuck off, and there has been too many attempts to pull that to mention. And both by federal and local government and private.

    The level of religious extremism in the USA is ultra-scary and shouldn’t even exist in a western modern democracy. It’s symptomatic of some deep rooted problem in american society which has not been either recognized or addressed. From a western foreigner perspective it’s not just weird, it’s very, very scary and utterly incomprehensible. It’s medieval!

  • Stalkeye

    Well, when the Majority of the House are now Republicans, one can expect a lot of changes such as the reversal of Roe v Wade and legislation that could repeal gay marriage and so forth.
    Most Republicans are God fearing Christians who deny a threat such as climate change. You may be on to something, but we shall see what happens in the next few years.

    If the house gets out of line, you best believe there will be a backlash whether its protests or another Civil War. Americans would not bow to undemocratic rules like the Middle east. At least not without a fight!

    But still, you don’t see us (Americans) flying planes into Buildings and Cutting off heads. The way I see it, Islam is the new Nazi.

  • Have you forgotten that Veid guy who blew up a federal building back in the 1990s? Your extreme fundamentalist religious right doesn’t lack want to comit terrorist acts, they just lack the opportunity. Or the gall to reenact the plot of a Michael Bay movie on the unsuspecting nation.

  • John Connor

    This movie was made about a dumbass for dumbasses. That’s why it did well.