So, Newt’s Back? So, Newt’s Back?
Ripley, Hicks and Newt together again. Here is some, well one piece of potential concept art Blomkamp posted to Instagram for Alien Day. Let... So, Newt’s Back?

Ripley, Hicks and Newt together again. Here is some, well one piece of potential concept art Blomkamp posted to Instagram for Alien Day. Let the celebrations commence…or not! Whether you like the director for his last two outings at all, is irrelevant. This film is probably going through and it’s going to be a last chance for most. So cross your fingers, maybe something will come of it.

 

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  • Dee-abolik

    *shrug*

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    So Newt still resembles a grown up Carrie Henn? I doubt it. That role will inevitably be recast. Aliens was the one and only film Henn ever starred in, and she went on to become a teacher.

    You just know the studio will be angling to cast Jennifer Lawrence in that role, and be grooming her to take over from Weaver in Aliens 6, 7, 8 and so on. Although, I think Juno Temple would be a better choice. She definitely shares Newt’s petite, cunning, feral qualities. But the studio will no doubt desire a more obvious action heroine type.

    http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i477/batmanonfilmdotcom/THEDARKKNIGHTRISES/Juno_Temple_actress.jpg

  • KilliK

    The Cow, Scarjo, Daisy Ridley, Emily Blunt. one of them.

  • KilliK

    FOX is desperately to revive this long dead franchise. But they already fucked up with their Prometheus effort, now we wait to see how Prometheus 2/Alien Covenant/whatever will turn out and what will happen with Aliens 2.

    My prediction? they failed three times to make a good Alien movie, I am not very optimistic they will succeed with their two new movies. Maybe they should give the franchise to Cocknose and “save” it like he did with SW/ST

  • I_am_better

    I’m very curious as to what Blomkamps pitch for the movie is.

  • CoolHandJuke

    Juno’s best role was as McConaughey’s fuck doll…

  • Kylo Ronin

    Chappie was fucking great.

    Bring it.

  • Toruk_Makto

    Please no more Jennifer…

    I like Juno, but I wouldn’t mind if they cast an unknown.
    Whatever the case Newt needs to be a bad-ass. If I were to portray a grown up Newt I would also make her a little…off mentally…just a wee bit.

  • You can’t keep a traumatized PSTD girl down! She needs therapy… by killing aliens!

  • How about the girl from Dredd?

  • Fuck’s sake, now you have something against Emily Blunt too? You really are a contrarian!

  • KilliK

    pardon? I only highlighted who are the to go actresses for action roles nowadays. nothing against those chicks, dont worry, I often masturbate to them. hehehe.

  • KilliK

    um, he described his pitch last year. google it.
    From what I remember, the Company moves the derelict ship to a secret hangar, where they start producing aliens with the eggs. Ripley has become an activist who tries to expose the activities of the Company, and with Hicks and Newt they try to infiltrate the base with the derelict and blow it up.

  • KilliK

    most importantly, she needs to have big breasts. really big. huge.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Not a bad choice.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Kate Upton for Newt, then.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Really? I must have missed that.

    If true, I don’t like it. The derelict ship was destroyed in the nuclear blast. Some people try to contest this, but the catharsis of Aliens’s conclusion, or the entire plot of Alien 3 for that matter, don’t make sense without that happening. Although, since Prometheus suggested there are Space Jockey/Engineer ships all over the galaxy, on different moons, it doesn’t necessarily have to be the same ship from LV-426.

    In any case, that plot sounds terrible: very small scale and limited in its scope. It’s hardly advancing the mythology, and could almost be suitable for a low-budget, direct to DVD sequel.

  • Toruk_Makto

    Well….of course!

  • The alien derelict ship was not destroyed in the blast. In Aliens they never get close to the alien ship, except for Newt’s parents in that deleted scene included in the extended scene. In the movie the only thing that’s destroyed is the human base where almost all the action is set.
    The alien ship is save as long nobody does in there and instigates an egg to opens up. Those eggs don’t open by themselves and a face-hugger strolls around.
    And the least said about Prometheus the better.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    The ship was destroyed. The optimistic ending of Aliens make no sense otherwise, as Ripley purposely went back to the planet to “wipe them out” and attain some peace of mind. Remember Ripley’s fears in the conference room about the ship with thousands of eggs and “just one of those things” getting back to Earth? There was always a chance that some space traveler or colonist could stumble across it.

    The ending of Aliens thus has no catharsis or completeness without the ship’s destruction and I believe Cameron put in the “40 megaton nuclear blast” crisis partly to sew up that open-ended plot-line, even as it served its other function of destroying the immediate colony/threat. We don’t know exactly how far away the ship was: Newt’s family could have been combing a large area of many square miles to locate the ship among the ranges and hills, instead of simply traveling far away from the colony in a straight line.

    The story-lines of Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection also make little sense if the ship wasn’t destroyed. The Company was so desperate to capture Ripley and her embryo because it was the last known Alien in the galaxy. Ditto for the contrived cloning procedure shown in Alien Resurrection. The Company (nor the screenwriters of the movies) wouldn’t have went to such lengths if a known ship with a cargo of eggs was still resident on LV-426. The Company could simply have sent an expedition there and collected some more eggs/aliens with ease, instead of pursuing Ripley. The Company didn’t believe Ripley about the ship at the beginning of Aliens, but they would’ve known from the events of Aliens; those were recorded on the Sulaco’s flight recorder. They would’ve sent out a team to the planet to investigate what happened to the marine expedition.

    This idea of the ship still being in existence seems to have been fostered by the non-canonical expanded universe material, like the video games, Dark Horse comics, etc. The creators of those things used that cheat because it was an easy way to continue the plot. That seems to be why Blomkamp is using it, too. If so, I’m disappointed. He could have come up with a more imaginative way to continue the story.

    Including the derelict is basically a retcon to what was heavily implied (if not decisively confirmed) at the end of Aliens. It’s really not much different to the retcon of Return of Jedi that JJ Abrams effected in order to create the plot of his awful sequel. It’s disrespectful to Cameron’s movie and cheapens the well-earned triumph of its ending.

  • KilliK

    well, said. dont forget that the power plant was far away from the base but Bishop points out that they wouldn’t survive the radius of the blast. It’s safe to assume that also the derelict wasnt too far from the power plant, because Newt’s parents didnt have to travel much to reach it. So the nuclear blast would have destroyed it too.

    It’s lazy writing because they prefer to retcon something instead of thinking of something original.

    I have a better idea for an Aliens sequel, but I dont want to write it here. I took my lesson from the Die Hard incident.

  • The derelic was not destroyed at all Only the base.
    And contrary to pop belief, the movie Aliens is not an happy go lucky happy movie. In fact the tone is very somber and melancholic.
    No, there is no definitive ending to the movie. The movie ends with a possibility for a sequel because the source of the alien menace is still intact.

    The alien ship is intact, only the base blew up.

  • Stalk?

    FOX had absolutely NO fucking business ruining Cameron’s Legacy and now those sorry idiots wish to make up for it with some Recton? Not that easy however if the last two sequels can be written off as some dream, all is forgiven.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    No, it was destroyed. If you wish to propose a hypothesis, you have to make a rational case for it using many sources of evidence. I’ve made a strong one. What’s yours? Simply that you find the tone “somber?”

    The tone of Aliens’s ending is clearly optimistic: Ripley has beaten her nightmares, found a new “family”, and can dream again. Listen to the music cue when Ripley is laying Newt to sleep. I did not say the ending was overly cheerful, happy or cloying. That wouldn’t fit the tone of the series at all. Optimism is a quite different quality from unfettered joy. And it IS a catharsis for Ripley. There would be no peace with that ship still on the planet.That’s what she went there to take care of.

    The alien menace was gone. There were no magic eggs on the Sulaco. To say otherwise is just studio talk. Alien 3 was only a greedy studio’s attempt to continue chasing a buck. And Blomkamp’s movie will probably be the same thing.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Well said.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Don’t worry: the Die Hard idea didn’t go anywhere. That thief won’t profit from it. Willis doesn’t care: he’s happy to earn money doing cheap action movies in Eastern Europe.

  • KilliK

    yep, Ripley killed the boogeyman and now she can sleep while having dreams instead of nightmares. perfect ending.

  • Well, truth be told,the Aliens fanboys have already decree that Alien3 doesn’t exist because… well, reasons! Aparently, Alien3 biggest sin is that it’s not aliens 2.0. So, this is just Fox listening to the fanboys and doing what they have been begging since 1992. It’s called pandering to the base. Disney did the same with Star Wars recently.

  • The tone of the entire Aliens movie is somber. Christ, even the music is like that. Oh, the lst shots have some optimy sound like music? Yeah, and then the credits play Horner’s adaptation of Gayenne Ballet Suite, a piece of music that’s hardly known for being poppy and upbeat.

    There are many myths about Aliens believes by the fanboys that the movie itself does not correwspond: tit’s not a non-stop actionmovie, since most of the it’s running time is devoted to atmosphere and tension, it’s not an optimistic happy movie but melancholic and atmospheric. And the derelic ship was not destroyed at all. The huma base yes, the alien ship wasn’t. It’s you who do not have one single “evidence” (if you want to call it that) that the alien ship was destroyed.

    This is the problem with fans and their movies, after a while the movies themselves are usurped by a mythological image that correspondes often very little to what’s actually onscreen. Star Wars fans being the worst offender in this regard. and now it’s the aliens fans too? Christ, the fandom is now little more than a group of dogmatics. If this is fandom, i don’t want any truck with that.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I concur. That plot description does nothing to excite. I am guessing no chance JC returns to this, huh? Would give anything for him to bring that oil slicked realism that Aliens had.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I think Temple is a good choice, She seems poised to breakout. Would Lawrence commit to another action type trilogy after the HG? I guess, the dead presidents will have something to say whether they can get her to commit.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    You’re up to your old tricks again. Why are you talking about things that have nothing to do with my post or anything I claimed (“non-stop action movie”?), and are non sequitur to the issue at hand?

    Evidence? Of course I have supporting evidence! I just gave you it. It runs across logical and narrative lines, and is based on what’s shown or said in the movie and its sequels. Can you counter those points without resorting to tangents? All I’m seeing is some weird subjective thing that the score is somber. How does that constitute “evidence” that the derelict remains?

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Well, Cameron has done a recent interview for Aliens’s 30th anniversary and says they would have to radically re-invent the concept in order to persuade him to return.

    Mind you, that’s what he said about Terminator as well. So not a definitive no, but hardly a yes, either.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Fans of both Alien and Aliens have decreed Alien 3 doesn’t exist because it’s a bad sequel to both and didn’t respect its progenitors. David Fincher agrees; he hates the movie worse than anybody. The only good things in Alien 3 came form Fincher; the many bad parts came from studio interference and early development before Fincher signed on. So, when you defend Alien 3 on these terms, just remember that you aren’t defending bold creative decisions made by David Fincher as you might believe, but studio hackery.

    What fans of Alien 3 fail to realize when using their straw men arguments is that most people didn’t want a repeat of Aliens: they wanted a sequel that was as different from Aliens as Aliens was from Alien and that did so without insulting what came before.

  • Fans of Alien and Aliens have decreed that Alien3 doesn’t exist?? This Alien and Aliens fan has not decreed such thing, and those who dare speak for me can go suck a lemon. Alien3 is a damn fine and good movie and i pity the fools who can’t see that.

  • And Fincher’s reasons to hate the movie are personal, due to the difficulty in making it and his constant fights with the executives, not because of the story. So his opinion on the matter is not due to the movie’s merits but his own bad memories making it, so it’s not about the movie’s qualities.

    This pissing on Alien3 is one of the many reasons i’ve become so disappointed with the fandom.

  • KilliK

    um Horner’s score ends with a lullaby in the end. check the titling of his soundtrack: 1st track is called intro/bad dreams, last track is called RESOLUTION/hyperspace. come on, man, it cant be more obvious than that, that Ripley kills the boogeyman and can sleep and dream again.

    OFC, that doesnt mean they cant retcon the fact that the derelict survived the blast. As long as it gives them to opportunity to create a nostalgia drive, fanserviced sequel to Aliens. they already tried something similar with the Colonial Marines videogame.

  • KilliK

    but Fincher didnt make the movie he wanted to make because of the studio’s interference. that’s the point here. Fincher disregards his movie not because of his old grudges against the studio execs, but because it doesnt represent his vision. Take this into consideration when you are defending that shitfest.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    No, he doesn’t hate the movie because of personal grudges. The people at Fox who caused him that grief are long gone and he’s worked for the studio a few times since. Fincher is older and more mature now, too, so he’s not interested in pettiness. He hates the movie simply because it doesn’t represent the movie he wished to make, starting with the bad script that was already in place and that he was forced to use. So, yes, his hatred IS very much based on the movie’s (lack of) merits. You don’t see Ridley Scott disowning Blade Runner because of the tough production he suffered, do you?

    The DVD producer twice tried to get him to return to do a commentary and Fincher told him the above. As it says in the liner notes, “There is no ‘director’s cut’ of Alien 3. It doesn’t exist. In order for that to happen, Fincher would have to start completely from scratch, with an entirely new script.”

    And please stop going off on strange tangents about “fandom” and “fanboys”. You aren’t dealing with one here. What, you think I’m a JJ Abrams-type disciple, man? Come on! Let’s stick to the facts and the facts only.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    As a movie in and of itself, it’s okay, especially the improved Assembly (not Director’s) Cut. It does contain some artful touches (because of Fincher) but the script is full of plot holes and stupidity (magic eggs least among them).

    If Alien 3 had been titled “Xenomorph Prison” and been a stand-alone sci-fi horror film, perhaps its defenders would be justified in being more lenient toward it. As a sequel to the first two films, however, it’s atrocious. A disgrace! But Blomkamp’s retconned fan service will be no better.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    You’re absolutely correct. The score itself couldn’t make it any clearer; the clue is in the titles of the tracks. So Asimov erred in trying to use that as evidence.

    I wonder if he actually watched the film properly or perhaps hasn’t watched it in years? All this stuff is self-evident and I can’t believe I had to elaborate on it.

  • KilliK

    or perhaps he watched the

    PORTUGUESE VERSION.

    hehehehe.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    He obviously did. And he obviously watched the Portuguese version of Alien as well: you know, the one where the alien didn’t die after being burned in the shuttlecraft’s thrusters and was, in fact, indestructible!

  • The_Troll_King

    Mmmm. Not sure where else they can take this franchise. Maybe to the alien homeworld, or a much better Alien Vs. Predator reboot. But even then, as all movies it depends on the characters and where else you can take them. Newt hasn’t been in an Alien movie since 30 years. 30 years. How much interest can there be? But, if she’s well developed, well rounded, I see no reason not to go forward with this franchise.