What’s the worst era for Pop Culture and Movies? What’s the worst era for Pop Culture and Movies?
What was the time period in pop culture- and movie- history that we deem as the worst? Eight writers want to know. Join the... What’s the worst era for Pop Culture and Movies?

Pop culture is cyclical and so is movie history. There are time periods that are better, quality-wise and there are occasional stretches when nothing seems to work. We at the Supernaughts want to talk about the latter today.

What period of pop culture/movie history goes totally against our tastes and why? 8 Supernaughts contributors tried to determine their least favourite time in pop culture history, be it regarding movies, music or comic books.

Do you agree? Disagree? Let us know in the comments.

Note: The following opinions are only reflecting the personal tastes of the contributors and all in good fun.

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Coupon The Movie:
2001 to present

No doubt, unequivocally and almost without precedent, the age we are living in now is the worst ever seen. Many factors have contributed to this. Pop culture and movies often reflect the times we are in so here we are. Everywhere you look, innovation and new ideas has been pushed aside because there doesn’t seem to be any profit in it for those at the top. Why should entertainment be any different?

Film has always found new ideas even in the worst of times until now. Look at the history.  Only two periods up until now showed a creative slump. The mid 60’s faltered as the studios became corporations and the studios lost touch with their audience until the auteur arose and gave us the greatest era of film since the 1930’s. But even they faltered with too much power and the experiments became pretentious and inaccessible until Star Wars showed the New Hollywood its true potential. High concept films then became exciting and opened up a whole new era of possibility in storytelling until the 90s when the era of independent film was born and showed us more potential on lower budgets. But slowly this fizzled out as the studios bought up the small distributors until an extreme schism was created between “tentpole films” and smaller, character driven material, which is where we are today.

Because the studios are now just a small division of much larger conglomerates, it has literally become “all about the money”. New ideas are too risky for the people funding movies and music so now it’s left with no alternative but to eat it’s own tail and look back at past glories in a pathetic attempt to recapture better times.
Think about the fact that Star Trek is 50 years old and Star Wars is almost 40. Nothing wrong with that but I think every new decade should have a new “big myth” to draw from. The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager were fun to watch mainly because even though Trek was aging, the 90’s already had it’s new myth for the time in the form of The X-Files and other stuff like Babylon 5. The new Star Wars films existed in a world were it was sharing its time in the pop culture zeitgeist with Lord of the Rings.

Jem and the Holograms (2015)

Jem and the Holograms (2015)

 

But what about now? Where’s the new myth? There is none. Just endless retellings of Robocop, Ghostbusters, Terminator and endless comic book films which are essentially the same film over and over and over. Ask yourself the next time you see a Marvel movie if it’s going to end with a big battle in a major metropolitan city. I bet it will.

And how about music? From Elvis to Audioslave, the chief characteristic of Rock and Roll was to have music that you loved but pissed off your parents. Now we have Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift. Even Hip Hop went from “fuck the police” to just “Don’t you wish you could fuck ME?”

Miley Cyrus (1992 -)

The problem with a creative laziness and endless recycling is that remakes and “callbacks” are just like oil, an unsustainable resource. Sooner or later, you run out of shit and hey, we’re already at a point where a Gem and the Holograms movie seemed like a good idea to someone. What happens next? Why can’t Hollywood look at a book series like The Expanse and throw real money behind it because you just know it’s breaking the bank at SyFy.
Think about this. Both Trek and Wars were created with the idea of going against the grain of what everyone else was doing. Trek in particular was designed by Roddenberry to be “subversive” as has been recently revealed and look how that turned out.

C’mon Hollywood. No Pain, No Gain. A Point Break Redux just ain’t going to cut it.

Coupon the Movie is occasional guest writer at The Supernaughts.

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DetectiveDee

Detective Dee reviews movies and sometimes TV-series. He likes to indulge in the Asian cinema, exploitation flicks and the horror genre but is no stranger to Blockbuster culture either. He writes whatever he wants, but always aims to entertain.

  • Stalkeye

    FIRST!!!! Excellent work guys. Give yourselves a pat on the back!

  • Stalkeye

    Dayum, Dee! You went hard and mean! XD
    I hated the shit out of Chad Kroger’s “Hero”. “Love will save us”? Fuck you!
    Hey, I loved Spiderman 2.

  • I_am_better

    Okay, my “PG-13” comment might be a bit compromised after Deadpool’s opening weekend.

  • Dee

    You stepped on my feelings too! *shakes fist*

  • I_am_better
  • Tarmac492.1

    Dee loves American sports references.

  • I_am_better

    *eats own foot*

  • Tarmac492.1

    Well done, friends. Good stuff!!! Dee, have you read Requiem for a Dream or any Selby book? Just curious.

  • Dee

    So true about American Beauty. What is that movie supposed to tell us?

  • Dee

    No, did not read the book, only judged the movie.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I think Mendes has a hatred for the classic American family. Fair enough. Give me Serial Mom to lampoon it better. Shocking the ex-military dude hates gays. Wow!! How original??? You wanna fuck your daughters friend?? Lemme watch Al Bundy with one hand down his pants.

  • ErnestRister

    The worst period for pop culture and movies was 1890-1902. The vulgarity of films like “Wife Stands in Front of Barn” and “Dog Looks Confused” and “Water Sprinkler” cannot be understated. Not even Elvis Presley or The Beatles warped the minds of rock-ribbed American youth like “Confused Baby Stares at Daddy” in 1894, or “Wife Stands in Front of Barn 2” in 1895, followed by the shocking final chapter in the trilogy, “Wif3 Emerges from Barn: Wif3 Stands in Front of Barn 3”. The depravity of these things directly led to World War One and the belief that technology’s magic would dominate the natural world, as seen in “Angry Hessian Fish Monger” (1901) and “My Flying Machine Is Made of Lead But will Be Unsinkable — Go On, God! Try and Sink It!” (1902)

  • Tarmac492.1

    Dude, Chad Kroger is bad. I cant even think of his band now. LOL!! No shit.

  • Dee
  • Kylo Ronin

    Lol, that good, huh?

  • Kylo Ronin

    But isn’t the original Ocean’s Eleven exactly that? Only with Sinatra instead of Clooney.

  • ErnestRister

    The shock prequel “Cow Smells Wife’s Pungent Undergarment in Front of Barn” (1903) was considered a disappointment..

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Davis,_Tilman,_wife_and_cow_in_front_of_barn_-_NARA_-_280926.jpg

  • Kylo Ronin

    Man, Stalks did the better takedown of the 70’s than that other schmuck.

  • Tarmac492.1

    yes, but Sinatra and Co were cooler.

  • Kylo Ronin

    I kinda don’t like Sinatra much. Dude had a way of just being kind of spoiled.

  • I_am_better

    He had “connections”

  • Kylo Ronin

    And that really fueled his ego.

  • I_am_better
  • Kylo Ronin

    Uh…….damn, you okay?

  • I_am_better

    Lol, I’m fine. Working on tomorrow’s SH.

  • Dee

    Not that much a fan of the original either.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Same here.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Hmmm…I wonder what period Asimov will choose?

  • Dee

    He did not contribute, because he said people would expect him to write the obvious and I can respect that.

  • Stalkeye

    Things that make you go hmmmm…

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Well, I like his reviews in general but I’m glad he sat this one out. He’s like a broken record when it comes to this subject, and I find his arguments for his position to be too generalized, often contradictory, and clouded by obvious personal and political biases that really have nothing to do with the cinema of the era itself.

  • Stalkeye

    Oh, most definitely. He keeps forgetting that Blade Runner debuted in the 80’s. Yup contradictory is right.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    I’m heartened that a few contributors dared to take the seventies to task. That era has been overly romanticized by people who weren’t even around (or were very young) during it. While it undeniably produced many, many brilliant films, it gave us a landfill of crap, too.

    I’ve said it many times before: audiences were lining up for crap like Love Story and Irwin Allen disaster flicks (which are just as bad as the most pandering and lowest common denominator material of today), as much as they were for the likes of The Godfather and Taxi Driver. Undoubtedly more so, in fact.

  • CoolHandJuke

    just wait for the future that will make us look back longingly on this current period…

  • Stalkeye

    Don’t be so hard on yourself. You did great Meng.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Asi doesn’t forget that Blade Runner was technically released in the eighties. But he does cling on to a weird fantasy that, as the movie was in development in the very latter part of the seventies, it makes it a seventies movie in “spirit”. He also maintains that audiences didn’t rediscover and grow to appreciate it until the early nineties (not true; Blade Runner garnered a growing cult audience on VHS from the mid-eighties onward). Both of which are his convoluted attempts to wriggle out of that apparent contradiction. 😉

  • Stalkeye

    He even said that Escape from New York was an 70s film.
    That’s reaching!!!!

  • Tarmac492.1

    Nickelback!!! I remember!! What about Lifehouse??? I suspect they will be spoken about in the same breath as The Who one day.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Remember, he thinks that 1980 is the last year of the seventies – so if Carpenter filmed Escape in ’80, then, according to his warped logic, it is!

    (Btw, Asi, if you’re reading this, I hope you realize we’re just breaking your balls in a lighthearted manner, not aggressively attacking you. Where is your Force Awakens review, dude?)

  • Dee

    And Stone Sour?

  • Tarmac492.1

    ouch.

  • Stalkeye

    Sure the script and premise was written by Carpenter during the 70’s due to John’s cynicism that stemmed from the Watergate scandal but production wise, it was all 80s.

  • Stalkeye

    Don’t know who’s worse, Chad or Adele? (;’

  • Tarmac492.1

    I think Paul Anka’s “Having My Baby” is on a transistor radio on the beach when the little Kitner boy gets a vicious 1970’s PG chomping in JAWS. The scene that gives us the “Jaws SHot”

  • Stalkeye

    Well, there are a few songs i liked from both Godsmack and Disturbed but both bands are overrated. Disturbed’s cover of “Shout” works best in fighting games like Dreamcast’s Marvel vs Capcom 2 Remix.

    Nick & Dee is right about Limp Bizkit.Well, I did like Rollin. *Runs away*

  • Tarmac492.1

    It was fun watching chubby, 4 foot 7 Fred Durst hopping around the stage trying to look like Clint Eastwood with a mic.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I always remember fondly listening to Bizkit cover Behind Blue Eyes. Just like I fondly remember seeing my dog get run over by a locomotive.

  • Dee

    *rolls away*

  • Tarmac492.1

    LOL!!

  • Someone should have wrote the 80’s pretending to be Asi.

  • I’m a big fan of Disturbed. They’re actually talented unlike most of the bands that were lumped in with nu-metal. Don’t mind if people hate them though, it’s kind of hard to defend them considering they do have some really terrible songs that are hard for most to overcome when judging them.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I am glad Stalks didnt include The Raspberries Go All The Way. I dig that song. Eric Carmen, FTW!!!

  • Tarmac492.1

    Comics Code Authority–another big government, money sucking program designed to shove morality or beliefs down people’s throats. I guess the fact that it most likely violates the first amendment was lost on them. I would have loved to see the dweeby dirtbags that worked at the CCA? I guess they never smashed one out to wonder woman? Please!!

  • Tarmac492.1

    I dig alot of the 70’s soft rock shit.

  • Dee

    What do you think about “Escape” by Rupert Holmes?

  • Tarmac492.1

    Technically any year in which the supreme Thespian Joe Piscopo did not appear in a film would have to be considered “worst.” I lament that Scorcese never cast Piscopo in Goodfellas as he would have made a much better Henry Hill than Liotta. Rumors persist that DeNiro was too intimidated to work with Piscopo after seeing Piscopo’s brilliant turn as Danny Vermin in Johnny Dangerously, a film considered by me to be better than All three Godfather films put together.

  • Tarmac492.1

    It has nostalgia value for me, I guess. It was a fun drinking song and the ladies would loosen up when they heard it during a placid, day drinking adventure.

  • Tarmac492.1

    CHad, def.

  • I guess from a pure pop culture, radio/mtv sense Nick is right about 1997-2001, but that time period was actually super fucking awesome for a few genres. Progressive rock/metal was frickin’ deadly, along with most of metal’s other non-commercial sub-genres really. Evolution within the punk genre lead to some of the best hardcore, post-hardcore, ska, and emo releases of all-time. Indie rock had some real killer stuff, but so much shit gets lumped into that “genre” that I’m not sure what Nick is placing in there. The indie I listened to was brilliant anyway (Modest Mouse, Neutral Milk Hotel, The Frames, Cursive, Matthew Good, Spoon, Damien Rice, Bell X1, etc.).

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    The CCA was just like the PMRC movement in the eighties music industry! A load of fallacious, unscientific crap dreamed up by undersexed weirdos (Fredric Wertham and Tipper Gore) intent on forcing their bizarre puritan agendas on the public and the respective industries.

  • Tarmac492.1

    “undersexed weirdos.” Perfect way of putting them. Nothing a stiff drink or stiff cock couldnt have solved before they started their Crusade.

  • I still like American Beauty. Agree with you on all those other Best Picture winners though, especially the one that made me stop giving a shit about the Oscars completely, A Beautiful Mind.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    You just know that Tipper wasn’t getting enough dick from Al at the time, and that that was what was secretly responsible for the whole circus. Entire civilizations have crumbled based on far less.

  • I’d have to agree with IAB when limiting it to pure popular culture, as the NOW is fucking dreadful from the perspective of what makes money in the movie and music industries (television is obviously a notable exception somehow).

    It started with movies in late 2008. The success of Twilight led to young adult garbage flooding the market, while the success of The Dark Knight and Iron Man brought forth the current age of mostly paint-by-the-numbers comic book films. 2008 also pushed the let’s reboot everything under the sun agenda thanks to Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Then Avatar arrived in 2009 and EVERYTHING had to be in 3D, and not real 3D like Avatar, fuck that, let’s cheap out and post-convert that shit. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!

    As for music, you can point squarely at a single hyphenated word; auto-tune. Ever since that shit started “fixing” everything around 2007/2008, it has dominated the radio/video landscape and led to more untalented pieces of shit making it big than one could have ever thought possible.

  • “PS: Almost Famous (2000) sucks!”

    You’re God damn right. I don’t get the appeal of this film at all.

  • Tarmac492.1

    i dug ur points and ur writing.

  • Stalkeye

    Very, very overrated, boring and not to mention an uninspired 3rd act.

  • Stalkeye

    <—–Submits revisions to Dee.

  • Stalkeye

    Don’t tempt me meng!

  • Stalkeye

    I used to have this song as background music while playing Tekken 6 on my XBox 360 custom soundtrack option. Love it!

  • Stalkeye

    One of my many anthems; (;’

  • Stalkeye

    OK, its time to pull out the “secret weapon” once more!! (0:<
    Actually, its a Tie!

  • CoolHandJuke

    fuck the big band era. that benny goodman is a punk ass bitch. #mapleleafrag4ever

  • KilliK

    where is Asi? is he alright? still waiting for his TFA review. :/

  • KilliK

    but according to his own rationale, BR is a 70s movie because the first draft was written in the 70s. LOL.

  • KilliK

    hehe, coincidentally, there was a topic about BR in another forum a few days ago, in which there was a guy talking about how he discovered the movie in the 80s thanks to VHS.

  • KilliK

    EFNY has an 80s aesthetics and Plissken’s anti-hero was a refreshing take on the archetype of the hero.

  • KilliK

    it’s all about his uncle.

  • Tarmac492.1

    its popularity was due to the subject matter, I think. It should have been much more interesting. Lemme tell u if I was a teenager writing for RS when it meant something on that type of assignment, lets just say my memoirs would have been more entertaining 😉

  • Tarmac492.1

    would rather see a doc on those “almost” type bands. i find them interesting.

  • Tarmac492.1

    he has some good stuff. Last Exit to Brooklyn is cool.

  • Stalkeye

    Still waiting on that Autobiography, Meng!!

  • Stalkeye

    Exactly!

  • Dee

    I’ll try to catch him on fb.

  • franks_television

    Gotta agree with Coupon here.

  • franks_television

    Although there are good TV shows now.

  • franks_television

    That’s about it.

  • Stalkeye

    “Now we have Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift. Even Hip Hop went from “fuck the police” to just “Don’t you wish you could fuck ME?””

    Buahahahahahah. Nice dig.

  • Stalkeye
  • Stalkeye

    Not a fan of Grunge Music but dammit if AIC wasnt a great band.I wasn’t aware that Nick was into the band. I’m a proud owner of their essential collection and Staley fucked up royally when he O’D. Talented singer.
    Scott Weiland? not so much.

  • Amanda

    The CCA was actually not a government agency. It was formed voluntarily in lieu of impending government censorship. IMO that makes it even worse, no one was willing to fight harder.

  • Sagamanus

    You know not sure any era really sucks. Things don’t always move on schedule and it’s not just a matter of getting good people behind things. It’s the intersection of politics and what’s happening in the world and what is permitted by the dominant parties in power. As well as people willing to go against the grain. Lightly treading anyway. It’s bottom up, as things are dredged like silt. Popular things are influenced by unpopular and unknown things. And we don’t always know the origins of everything. You get what I’m saying? No? Ahh what are you gonna do!

    That being said there was a stretch of time post-Matrix where there was a lot of complaining. And I know you like The Flintstones Dee. I know you do!

  • Sagamanus

    Good works. Oh and Dee hated Riddick? First time I’m hearing anything about that!

  • Dee

    I expanded that bit a little.

  • Dee

    What do you want to say again?

  • Tarmac492.1

    true. dangerous when we let speech, art, etc we dont approve of get persecuted. only a matter of time before someone disapproves of what u say and do……

  • JAGUART

    I’m gonna go with 1997-2007, when Ben Affleck was shitting on our notion of an A-list actor.

  • Stalkeye

    The 1990s were pretty bad. Comic books at that time were characterized by extreme style over substance and rampant speculation amongst collectors (Death of Superman, am I right?). Back then, men were muscle bound, pouch laden, footless badasses, while the women were forced to exist without internal organs or straightening irons for their radical hair. Everything was covered with holograms and foil incentive variant covers. But at least at that time, comic books were readily available and still cost less than a slice of pizza, a claim that can’t be made as easily today.”

    I couldnt have said it any better. Practices such as multi covers, too many XMen books and those ridiculous Image comics turned me off Comics until I started reading Ultimates and Civil War. “WARchild”?? LMMFAO

  • Stalkeye

    “Are you going to tell me that Titanic, Shakespeare in Love, American Beauty, Gladiator and a film written by Akiva Goldsman, A Beautiful Mind are truly great films? “

    No, they weren’t. Overrated? Fuck yes!

  • Bop

    Fucking auto-tune. That shit covers up the lack of talent lots of “stars” have.

    As for movies, I don’t know when the decline really started for me, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was with with rhe birth of Twilight.

  • Bop

    Comic-wise the 90s is my most hated period. Gimmick covers, McFarlane, faux bad girls, uninspired Marvel titles and X-crap overkill that still turns my stomach to this day.
    Thank god for the early Valiant, Malibu and Ultraverse and some really good DC stuff like Lobo, LEGION,Suicide Squad and Justice League.

  • Bop

    Yeah. And if those ever stop I will have lots of free time.

  • Ollie