Spinning Headlines – Week 23: Jesus part 2, Rogue One, Galactica, Stranger Things, Adam McKay, Episode VIII, Jason Bourne, Ron Howard… Spinning Headlines – Week 23: Jesus part 2, Rogue One, Galactica, Stranger Things, Adam McKay, Episode VIII, Jason Bourne, Ron Howard…
John Williams wanting to return to Indy and SW, Mel Gibson to do Jesus-sequel, Mads Mikkelsen addresses the "Rogue One"-situation, teaser for Netflix' "Stranger... Spinning Headlines – Week 23: Jesus part 2, Rogue One, Galactica, Stranger Things, Adam McKay, Episode VIII, Jason Bourne, Ron Howard…

Hi there. Typing this very late in the day, as I just came back from watching “The Conjuring 2“. I know, I know; “so when will you review it then?”. The thing is – it’s VERY difficult to write a review of that one without spoiling the surprises. And believe me – there are plenty. I will at this time only say: it’s plain fucking awesome. If you liked the first one, go and see this one. If you didn’t like the first one….well, I guess you just don’t like good things….

In our “News”-section there was definitely the “huh?” of the week in the shape of the trailer for “Greasy Strangler”. You gotta see it to believe it 😀

What else?

The first set photo from the “WolverIIIne“-set that shows Professor X together with Logan. I gotta say – they have both seen better days:

 

JOHN WILLIAMS TO SCORE “INDY 5” AND “EPISODE VIII” – IF HE CAN

Yes, the Twitter went mad over that one. John Williams, returning to “Indiana Jones” again. But – Williams DID put an “if” there – for both this one and the possibility of “Star Wars Episode VIII”. Here’s what he said to Variety: “If I can do it, I certainly will. I told Kathy Kennedy I’m happy to do it, but the real reason is, I didn’t want anybody else writing music for Daisy Ridley.”

“If”. Let’s remember the facts here: Williams, who was given the American Film Institute’s Life Achievement Award on June 9, is 84 years old and already stepped off from scoring Steven Spielberg‘s “Bridge of Spies” last year for minor health issues. So while he’s certainly worked on Spielberg’s “The BFG” and will score ‘bergs “Ready Player One” next – “Indy 5” is still three years away in the future.

Naturally we are all hoping for the best, but as 2016 has shown us – things happen…

 

MEL GIBSON TO TORTURE JESUS AGAIN

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Yup – seems that old Mel is not done with the franchise that made him millions and millions some time ago. No – not “Lethal Weapon“; screenwriter Randall Wallace(“Braveheart”, “Pearl Harbor”) told the Hollywood reporter this week that he’s been working on a script for a sequel to “The Passion of Christ”, that would focus on the Resurrection of Christ. Some say that this would be a good title for the film – I say: what’s wrong with “Christ 2: the Second Story“? “I always wanted to tell this story,” Wallace said. “The Passion is the beginning and there’s a lot more story to tell.” There could be a good joke made here about a Jesus Cinematic Universe, but I’ll leave that for another time.

 

AN ACTOR’S OPINION ON THE WHOLE “ROGUE ONE”-THING

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I won’t make any comments on the “Rogue One“-reshoot reporting debacle this week either as the whole thing stills reeks of “much hubbub about nothing”. I’m gonna let actor Mads Mikkelsen give HIS comment, and leave it at that. He told The Independent: “Basically, all the big films I have done always have reshoots, it is part of their budget. They’re either not super happy with a scene bit, the way we were acting, or maybe there’s something they want to add. It’s not a new thing, it happens with every film. Whether it’s bigger or less, I have no idea, I have nothing to compare with. It’s the same film; it’s just adding little bits here and there to do the final polishing. That’s my feeling.”

Like I said last week. So everyone just CALM THE FUCK DOWN about it.

 

“BATTLESTAR: GALACTICA”-MOVIE MIGHT HAVE A DIRECTOR

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Now, first things first: I have zero anticipation for ANYTHING dealing with “Battlestar: Galactica” that isn’t associated with the recent Ronald D. Moore-overseen series. None. That was to me THE perfect end-all adaptation of that story. Period. But apparently the wheels are still in motion at Universal to produce another remake – in feature film-form this time – of the franchise. The latest news on this is, that writer Lisa Joy(HBO’s “Westworld“) is writing a script and director Francis Lawrence(“Constantine”, “Hunger Games: Catching Fire, Mockingjay 1-2” is now “circling” the movie to direct.

Nope. We don’t need this. So say we all.

 

A TRAILER FOR NETFLIX’S “STRANGER THINGS”

Seems pretty interesting. Love the period-setting of the 80’s. Here’s the full Netflix press release of it:

“Set in Hawkins Indiana in the 1980’s, Stranger Things chronicles the search for a young boy who vanishes into thin air under highly suspicious circumstances. His mother (Winona Ryder) opens an investigation into the boy’s disappearance with local authorities that unravels a series of mysteries involving top-secret government experiments, terrifying supernatural forces and one very strange little girl. A love letter to the ubiquitous cult classics of the 80’s, Stranger Things is also a coming of age story for the boy’s three closest friends that draws them into a world where mysteries lurk beneath the surface.

Stranger Things stars Winona Ryder, David Harbour, Finn Wolfhard, Millie Brown, Gaten Matarazzo, Caleb McLaughlin, Noah Schnapp, Natalia Dyer, Cara Buono, Charlie Heaton, and Matthew Modine.

Matt Duffer and Ross Duffer (Wayward Pines, Hidden) serve as writer, directors and co-showrunners of the series, and are executive producers along with Shawn Levy and Dan Cohen via their 21 Laps entertainment banner (The Spectacular Now, Night At The Museum, Real Steel, Date Night). Shawn Levy also serves as director. Stranger Things is a Netflix production.”

 

MCKAY TO TACKLE ANOTHER REAL-LIFE STORY

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Who would’ve thunk it back in 2004, that the director of “Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy” would some day make a drama based on real historical events? And then be nominated for a “Best Director” Academy Award from it? But that’s exactly what Adam McKay did last year with “The Big Short“. And it seems like he’s not done yet – news came out this week, that he is close to casting Jennifer Lawrence as lead actress in his next movie, which tells the story of the medical company Theranos, founded in 2003, which claimed to have revolutionized blood testing by being able to use only a pinprick of blood rather than traditional methods of drawing blood by injection. The company however is now under investigation over claims of inaccurate test-results and it’s worth – which was once called to be $9 billion – has plummeted to the sewers.

Interesting to see what will come of this.

 

RIAN JOHNSON TEASES “HOME STRECH” FOR “EPISODE VIII”

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But – I hope Johnson also just didn’t release a massive spoiler to the film’s end. We all KNOW, what an empty robe means in the world of “Star Wars“, right…?

 

SPEAKING OF SPOILERS…

Universal’s marketing department kinda shot itself in the foot again, as this most recent TV-spot of “Jason Bourne” pretty much spoils the fate of a certain character and as such, reveals us Bourne’s motivation for unleashing copious amounts of destruction and carnage again.

 

SUICIDE SQUAD RATED AS PG-13 – AS WAS TOLD LONG BEFORE

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There you have it: “Suicide Squad” has been officially rated PG-13 for “sequences of violence and action throughout, disturbing behavior, suggestive content and language“. No big surprise there, as this was already confirmed during the shooting of the film.

 

RON HOWARD TO DIRECT A SCIFI-MOVIE NEXT

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I wouldn’t consider “Apollo 13” a science-fiction movie – more like “science fact”, so I’d say Ron Howard‘s next movie – after he finishes up with the Dan Brown-adaptation “Inferno” – makes it his first science fiction-movie since “Cocoon“(1985). That one HAD aliens in it, am I right…? The film will be based on Neal Stephenson’s sci-fi novel “Seveneves”, and the official synopsis of it goes like this:

What would happen if the world were ending?

A catastrophic event renders the earth a ticking time bomb. In a feverish race against the inevitable, nations around the globe band together to devise an ambitious plan to ensure the survival of humanity far beyond our atmosphere, in outer space.

But the complexities and unpredictability of human nature coupled with unforeseen challenges and dangers threaten the intrepid pioneers, until only a handful of survivors remain . . .

Five thousand years later, their progeny—seven distinct races now three billion strong—embark on yet another audacious journey into the unknown . . . to an alien world utterly transformed by cataclysm and time: Earth.

So basically, “Seveneves” would be a welcome change to the old “disaster movie”-cliche in that it focuses on character RETURNING to Earth after the shit hit the fan. Sounds interesting to me. Anyways, Howard has his “Apollo 13” and “Castaway“-writer William Broyles jr. working on it – NOT Akiva Goldsman, so everyone can take a deep, relaxed breath right now…

Oh – speaking of Ron Howard: they also annouced this week that a remake of “Splash” is in the works.

Of course it is.

 

SOME “TRAINSPOTTING 2” SET PHOTO

Renton and Sick Boy are back in action in this set photo of Ewan McGregor and Jonny Lee Miller listening the directions of Danny Boyle. I have to say – I’m getting excited about this…

 

“FAST 8” CLASS PHOTO

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The heroes and villains of “Fast 8” forgot their differences for a while and all posed for this group pic.

 

“DUNKIRK” SET VIDEOS

Last week we had some on set-photos from Christopher Nolan‘s “Dunkirk“. Here’s something better – actual behind the scenes-footage:

 

SPIT-TAKE OF THE WEEK

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Okay, it’s this:

Every time we train together I forget he's 61 years old. So much respect for this guy. #JKSimmons #OldManCranking

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Look – this is not meant as mockery towards the actor and person in any way. I say J.K Simmons looks a mighty ripped 61-year old. Good for him. But this is training for Commissioner Gordon in Zack Snyder‘s “Justice League“. And I’ll just republish the first thought I had after seeing this:

“I guess the new Commissioner Gordon will be a Nietzschean fascist ubermensch military leader”

And you know what? I bet that’s exactly what he is.

 

That is all.

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  • Sagamanus

    Tormund Giantsbane?

  • I_am_better

    Yup, he’s there too.

  • Sagamanus

    Seveneves sounds interesting. But I’m sure it’s going to be pretty muted in tone. These things are always great in the concept stages, but due to lack of vision or budget turn out pretty plain.

  • I_am_better

    At least it won’t have CGI whales

  • Sagamanus

    Jesus the sequel! Man, I bet no one ever thought of that…well, except Jesus when he was resurrected. What we need is an urban Jesus, for 2016, but a guy who’s stuck in the eighties and wears acid washed jeans.

  • I_am_better
  • Sagamanus

    Stranger Things sounds interesting as well. Some of the those icon pics made it look like it was anyone but Ryder in it.

  • I_am_better
  • Sagamanus

    They didn’t have enough money in the budget for a futuristic wheelchair?

  • I_am_better

    Old is the new New.

    Updated this in the article

  • I_am_better

    It’s a remake of “The Bucket List”

  • ErnestRister

    Williams had heart surgery to implant a pacemaker, folks. That’ll keep you alive, but it will also slow you down. No mystery why the AFI gave him their Lifetime Achievement Award. Watch the Academy follow suit.

  • I_am_better

    Yeah, that’s what I was thinking.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Hey, guess we had the same thought on Snyder’s take on Commissioner Gordon.

  • ErnestRister

    That’s where the “if” comes from. You know, it’s funny…years ago, John Williams announced he was retiring, and would do a score here or there, but was going to slow down…and then the guy does the exact opposite.

  • Kylo Ronin

    What, the one Stephenson novel they adapt and it’s not Snow Crash!?

  • Kylo Ronin

    Seriously, that would go over like gangbusters!

  • Kylo Ronin

    Oh shit, they’re playing a little of Interstellar’s OST in the Dunkirk BTS vid.

    Don’t cry don’t cry don’t cry don’t cry too late.

  • I_am_better

    Not familiar with Stephenson at all. Googled that one. Interesting name for the protagonist

  • Kylo Ronin

    It’s a lot better than it sounds. Pair it up with Neuromancer and you got polar opposites in the same genre.

  • ErnestRister

    I’m by no means a religious scholar, but a follow up to the Passion would seem to have focus on Peter and the formation of the young Christian religion…Romans throwing Christians into stadiums with hungry lions, disciples put to the sword, etc., only to ultimately see a Roman Emperor adopt the Christian faith. I’m probably wrong, but if I’m right, Christ would only be in the first act, and then, it’s all up to the disciples and lots of torment for people believing in a different faith.

    That’s my guess, anyway.

  • I_am_better

    Just checked – none of his books have been published in Finnish.

  • Kylo Ronin

    Damn!

  • I_am_better

    Sounds plausible. I just settle in making endless jokes about the whole thing

  • I_am_better

    Oh, it’s not uncommon. Especially in the genre titles, I’s say 75-85% of the stuff is only available imported. This is not a very big market we have here…

  • ErnestRister

    Gibson and the Bible…now with Hungry Lions!

    Here, kitty.
    December 2019

  • I_am_better

    Jesus 4: Citizens on Patrol

  • I_am_better

    Christ reappears as a Force Ghost in the end

  • I_am_better

    It’s just that 2016 has me concerned of ALL musicians especially

  • ErnestRister

    “Why are you grinning?”
    “Shhh! Nero is visiting his bath house, and I hired a lady of the town so o’er run with the curly bush crabs, Nero shalt not cross his legs again for a fortnight!”
    “You crazy! Let’s go watch!”

  • ErnestRister

    More like everyone waits for him, while people see tree sap stains on a tree and patterns in their pancakes and think they’re messages from the Virgin Mary.

  • I_am_better

    Sounds like a Game of Thrones-crossover
    XD

  • I_am_better

    Shit, I forgot the “spit-take” gif and I’m not on my computer anymore.

    Oh well – I’ll add it in the reshoots…

  • Willard

    Glad to hear that about The Conjuring 2.

  • Willard

    Suicide Squad might be PG-13 but as I already said in the Dojo Batman The Killing Joke (which is now getting a limited theatrical release) is rated R and it’s a dang Batman cartoon.

    I think that’s fine for a video release but I don’t like the idea of a kid seeing a poster for a Batman movie he isn’t allowed to see.

  • ErnestRister

    The last few seconds of audio on The Killing Joke are going to be VERY interesting.

  • I don’t like good things.

  • CoolHandJuke

    This is shaping up to be the best spring break movie ever…

  • I still chuckle every time I remember the talkbackers who were convinced that the movie wouldn’t be called Suicide Squad.

  • Demagog Dog

    Anybody else think Ewan McGregor looks like Daniel Craig now?

    #Ewan007

  • Sagamanus

    That was supposed to be a TV miniseries at one point. Hell, even Tom Hanks was involved it seems. I think that’s the one.

  • Sagamanus

    The first one was pretty good, until they got to that exorcist scene. This one kind of looks a little more polished to its detriment. But I’ll still check out.

  • I_am_better

    “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(Chokes)”
    [sound of windpipe crushing]

  • Dee-abolik

    Jesus: Ascension 2 Heaven

  • Dee-abolik

    JK Simmons was already pretty buff in Whiplash.

  • Dee-abolik

    It’s the ears and the stiff posture. And the hairline.

  • Dee-abolik

    Looks like from a Farrelly Bros. buddy comedy.

  • I_am_better

    It would be a good time for a Shcottish actor again, wouldn’t it?

  • I_am_better

    “Snow crash” sounds like a movie adaptation of all the Finnish traffic cams everytime the first snow comes.

  • Sagamanus

    Finnish Traffic Cams. The film!

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    He and Stephen Lang should form a wrestling tag-team called “The Silver-Haired Adonises”. They’re seriously kicking a lot of the younger, metrosexual actors’ asses when it comes to saying in shape and being physically imposing.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Professor X shat in his incontinence pants. That’s why he’s wearing that stricken expression.

  • KilliK

    JUJUBES!

  • KilliK

    In other news, Warcraft flopped in USA. thanks Americans, stick to your sequels and remakes. dont give a chance to something new.

  • KilliK

    Moore himself has debunked this myth. Batman doesnt kill Joker and that was never the writer’s intention. And the narration itself never leads to that act, it doesnt make sense. I dont understand how this myth came to be, probably fans being clueless and speculative again.

  • KilliK

    if that’s supposed to be Jackman’s Old Man Logan look, then the movie is already a failure.

  • ErnestRister

    I haven’t seen the movie, but what is new about Warcraft other than the title?

  • ErnestRister

    Best Joker Dialog:

    “How many people have I killed? No, I don’t keep count. But you do. And I love you for it.”
    — The Dark Knight Returns

  • KilliK

    I am sorry but essentially you are telling me that the american family will prefer the familiar than the new. Conjuring 2 made bucks, a sequel. I guess groundbreaking CGI, good story, beautifual visuals, humor,action and drama werent enough for the american family. The 20th Marvel sequel was though. Spare me with this crap, Ernest, there is a reason you see american tourists eating in McDonalds in foreign countries.

  • KilliK

    yeah, I love that dialog too.

  • ErnestRister

    Groundbreaking CGI, great script, beautiful visuals, humor, action, and drama did nothing for The Life of Pi. Barely pulled The Jungle Book over $300 million U.S., and it’s a marvel.

    As for sparing you crap, Killik, I don’t know how many times I have to say it. I’m not your enemy. I’m not even a combatant. I think you’re so used to people verbally going after you, you have your shields up and you punch back against anyone even when no punch has been thrown. I’m not your friend. I’m not your enemy. I’d rather call you friend.

    It’s true, the average American family — which is the traditional market for feature animation in America, for good or ill — now only goes to the movies about four times a year. I don’t care if it’s Warcraft or anything else, that’s the burden of reality you accept when producing an animated film, or a mainstream family film. Late in his life, Walt said he came to realize his most important target audience was a married woman in her late 30’s on up, because if you could get her to box office, you’d also get the kids, the husband, maybe the in-laws…everyone would make a night of it. Those movies were events. Cinderella. Alice in Wonderland. Lady and the Tramp. Sleeping Beauty. Who was the lead in Peter Pan? It’s Wendy. Who’s the villain? Her father, trying to steal her childhood. Walt went for the adult female late in life, and he made classics, but let’s not kid ourselves, this was serious business. Same thing today. Company-wide.

    I look forward to seeing Warcraft as a life-long admirer of animation art. I never had any illusions it would be a hit in North America.

  • Dee-abolik

    Holy shit, yes. By the way, Lang should get more roles.

  • Toruk_Makto

    Fuck those ass-holes. They didn’t come out for DREDD either, ultimately they are shitting in their own drinking supply, dooming themselves to receive more regurgitated dreck in the coming years.

    I’m just glad we at least have another decent fantasy movie to add to the books. The movie did a great job of telling a self-contained first chapter and allowing for future tales if these shit-for-brains decide to come to their senses.

    I found the movie 20x more entertaining than those dreadful hobbit movies and I rank it’s rewatchability factor at about an 8 out of 10. So I think it will balance itself out in time financially.

    But frankly I say for future movies of this ilk…fuck the standard model. Slash the budget ( that means purge the superfluous production spending that plagues most Hollywood productions ) and go with Netflix or a similar format.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    “Barely pulled Favreau’s The Jungle Book over $300 million U.S.”

    What the hell are you taking about? The Jungle Book now sits at $350 million domestic and is the 35th highest grossing movie of all time on the domestic box office chart. It came close to crossing the billion mark worldwide. It’s a huge hit, by any definition. Life of Pi was also a huge worldwide hit, and did respectable domestic business. Are we at the stage where ludicrous spin is employed to downplay the results of successful movies or construct specious arguments? Domestic and foreign audiences have no inherent aversion to CGI/ live-action blends. Quite the opposite, in fact.

    BTW, there was a movie comprised of 60% animated material that remains the second highest grossing movie at the North American box office, and is, by some considerable distance, the worldwide champ. It was called Avatar. Never forget that.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Well, I’m hoping he’ll be cast as Cable in Deadpool 2 and/or X-Force, and thereafter he’s set to continue his villainous (presumably) role in four Avatar sequels. He’ll have plenty of exposure in the next few years.

  • KilliK

    yeah, I was up for a Kenobi movie with him but after seeing his recent photos, yeesh, maybe they should make it with another actor…

  • Zed

    Bad Robot will sue Netflix for stealing their “mystery box” schtick.

    Is it really a spoiler to say that the highest paid cast member gets killed off in a Star Wars movie? Seems like standard procedure nowadays.

    Seveneves is a terrible book and deserves everything Ron Howard will do to it.

  • KilliK

    they wont cast him, they need someone younger for more sequels.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    You’re probably right, yet I’ll nonetheless be disappointed if they don’t. If that’s their reason for not casting him, it won’t make much sense: those X-Men sequels/spin-offs will be appearing in only the next few years. Lang will be playing Quaritch – another very physical role – until 2023, so there’s no reason he can’t also play Cable through an even shorter period of time.

    Well, if they don’t cast in favor of some young idiot, fuck ’em.

  • ErnestRister

    Turd, I saw The Jungle Book in its last night in Imax 3D before Captain America: Civil War gobbled up all the screens, at which point JB had just crossed $300 million. If it managed in the last few weeks to milk another $50 million domestic, then good for that movie. Killik and me were talking about Warcraft, and the fact that American families only go to the movies these days about four times a year, so it is a challenge for any film that isn’t pre-sold like a sequel or a remake to attract a large audience.

  • Toruk_Makto

    Stephen King’s “The Cell” is out on VOD for Stephen King fans. It has a rating of 4.7 on imdb…so…proceed with caution.

  • KilliK

    so it is a challenge for any film that isn’t pre-sold like a sequel or a remake to attract a large audience.

    but that’s what I have been saying too, so we agree on that. as for Avatar, it’s wise for you to keep quiet. stick to the Disney stuff.

  • ErnestRister

    I liked Avatar. Well done, some shots were just off the chart beautiful. I’ve said it before, I think it loses something in translation from IMAX 3D to standard home theater viewings.

    My favorite Cameron film is The Abyss, which I saw five times in original release, and when I moved to Los Angeles, the extended cut premiered in Century City and I was there opening night. Looking forward to Pandora opening at Animal Kingdom Spring 2017.

  • KilliK

    The Abyss is my favorite James Cameron movie too.

  • ErnestRister

    I almost choked to death on a Jujubee opening night of True Lies.

  • KilliK
  • KilliK

    nice. now go watch Warcraft.

  • Stalk👁

    [email protected] sequel to The Passion of Christ.
    More Jew Scapegoating continues!
    Suicide Squad is officially “PG-13”? Fuck WBDC! I guess they want to sell figures and Happy Meals.

  • Stalk👁

    One of the best endings in a Comic.
    You can tell that Bats aint “all there” either.

  • Stalk👁
  • SullyOar

    I hope not the facist ubermensch part, but definitely spit take of the week for me. Is that what JJ Jameson looked like underneath the whole time? This reminds me I still need to get some weights.

  • I_am_better

    When I read it as a kid, I imagined that they both got locked up after that

  • Stalk👁

    That wouldve been some awesome
    Shit since BOTH have psychological issues.😨

  • I_am_better

    I noticed from the trailer that was release about a month or so ago, that they have definitely done some major rewriting on it. Less like a travel-movie – more like The Walking Dead.

  • Stalk👁

    JK Simmons is looking for some new Ass, that’s the real reason for him working out. X)
    And Scott manz is a true example of a Dweeb, he fawns over Comic based celebrities to the extent that he may hump their legs.I admire his passion in things Geek related but the old man needs to turn it down a notch.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    Aliens deserves a wide theatrical re-release to celebrate its thirtieth anniversary, not just a one-off screening, and preferably in a remastered 70mm print (the original release had one: a blow-up, but a 70mm print none the less) suitable for IMAX exhibition. I’d rather watch Aliens for the hundredth time than a lot of the new stuff that comes out.

    T2 was supposed to be getting a 3D anniversary re-release this year, too; I don’t know what happened to the plans for that. Maybe it’s only for the Chinese market or scheduled for later in the year.

  • KilliK

    it’s only for the Chinese market, although Jim mentioned a worldwide release.

  • Toruk_Makto

    I don’t know…I’ll have to try to watch it again one day. I nodded off somewhere near the middle.

  • Toruk_Makto
  • southafricanguy

    Me too. aliens is my all time favourite movie

  • southafricanguy

    It’s making bank here in South Korea too. Warcraft is a very popular game in Asia and they don’t have this weird anti cgi obsession that seems so prevalent in North America.

  • southafricanguy

    It is damn good. I think the directors cut is extremely underrated

  • southafricanguy

    I agree with you to a degree. Avatar was more of a cinematic experience…..it is a stunningly beautiful film from a visual standpoint. The movies greatest strength is the world building and Pandora as a character imho. For myself personally I love the design aesthetic and how it feels and looks like something straight out of heavy metal magazine. But it’s weakest points are the narrative and the characters overall (though Jake Sully, Netery, and quatritch all have potential to become much more interesting characters in the sequels). And perhaps it is those weaknesses that create a loss from cinema to home viewing for some people?

    I am stoked that Cameron brought in other writers to Co write the scripts for the sequels and that he said in interviews that he intends to push things with story and characters in the Avatar sequels rather than push things technically. That leads me to believe that we can get some great stories and better characters to go with the amazing world that was created.

  • southafricanguy

    Perhaps Warcraft has too European a sensibility in terms of its themes and showing both sides of a conflict and showing both sides in terms of moral greys rather than simple black and white version of good and evil for the US?

    And perhaps the design aesthetic is a bit too Asian in its appeal for a US audience too?

  • southafricanguy

    It’s just sad that a movie depends on what families will like…..family viewing does not go hand in hand with quality cinema. I guess that explains the excellent Mad Max Fury Road not setting the box office alight

  • southafricanguy

    I Love that Patrick Stewart is getting to be Xavier again. There can never be enough Patrick Stewart imho

  • southafricanguy

    Am I the only really excited to see Independence Day Resurgence?…..yeah…I know Roland Emmerich mostly makes shitfests and lord knows his last couple of films have sucked hard, but I recently rewatched ID4 and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it…

  • southafricanguy

    I also hope Lang is Cable in Deadpool 2 ( Deadpool was fucking awsome btw) as Lang is a genuinely great theater actor. The guy simply doesn’t give bad performances.

  • southafricanguy

    Preach Turd. Aliens deserves a proper re release.

  • southafricanguy

    Dredd was a criminally underrated and overlooked film by action movie, comic book, and science fiction movie fans. Utterly criminal how little it made.

    On a side note….it was filmed in South Africa…..Johannesburg was Mega city one

  • southafricanguy

    Now if we can just get Stewart to be Picard one more time…

  • southafricanguy

    I will give Mangold the benefit of doubt. He did a pretty damn good job onThe Wolverine overall (the R rated cut is a bit better) especially after the terrible Wolverine origins. It’s a solid film with some good action and character work.

  • I_am_better

    I gotta admit – the last trailers for Resugence promise some massive spectacle, at least

  • Toruk_Makto

    It’s among my top ten comic book adaptations.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I thought the first half of the original was the perfect summer blockbuster. After all the shit got blown up it got kind of dopey. However, overall it was entertaining and doesnt lose much on the rewatch scale for me.

  • Tarmac492.1

    It is a toss-up between this and the original Terminator for me. But they are both grand entertainments.

  • Tarmac492.1

    doesnt he spend much of his time on Broadway? I believe he is a well respected stage actor?

  • Tarmac492.1

    Aliens puts to shame every third rate typist and cgi whiz kid that think all they need is alot of RAM and ‘splosions to make a big budget flick great, There is more adrenaline pumping when Vasquez bellows “Let’s Rock” than 80% of the action shit now.

  • Stalk👁

    My two favorite JC films of all time!

  • ErnestRister

    I had very very minor surgery in 2012…I knew I was going to be down for few days, so hours before the procedure, I bought the shitfest 2012 at Target. Recovered from anesthesia, threw down some hydrocodone, watched 2012, had a blast. Crazy fat russian throwing his crazy fat kids onto one of the arks was the comedy highlight of the year.

    Well, not really, but it seemed like it at the time.

  • ErnestRister

    It’s even sadder that a movie depends on what 13 year old girls will like, or teenage boys. Here’s a mind-warp for you…do you know the target audience for mobile app games? It ain’t teens, although sure, that’s a big target. It’s 40 year old women.

  • ErnestRister

    Jesus of Nazareth goes to Jerusalem, is greeted as a savior, and then goes and attacks money lenders in a temple. Two days later, he’s arrested, beaten within an inch of his life, and nailed to a cross. I always thought it strange in Sunday School as a kid that people never put all that together. Jesus attacked the financial district, those people fought back. Christ was a revolutionary, his words profound, inspiring, world-changing, but he quickly made enemies and was seen as a radical. Gibson’s film is a time machine, like Saving Private Ryan, taking you to a pivotal moment in world history. The follow-up won’t come near $350 million domestic like the first, but the story of the disciples after the resurrection with Gibson’s pedigree behind the camera should probably net around $90-$100 million domestic. Just gotta keep production costs down, and put a lid on the alcohol.

  • ErnestRister

    James Cameron is a master with story structure, but…(calm down, Killik and Turd, this is nothing new, and you’ll probably agree) his written dialog could benefit from outside talent. Cameron is blunt, even hostile, with his characters and their speech. The Abyss is unique for a Cameron film in that the female lead doesn’t grab someone by their shirt collar and yell in his face…but you sense she would if Bud hadn’t stopped her. A sense of artless perfucnctory rote utility surrounds his dialog. It’s really his only weakness.

  • southafricanguy

    no argument here dude. I am a huge Cameron fan, but that does not mean being blind to his weaknesses, and indeed dialog is not his strong point (as action is not Nolan’s strong point). And that is why I am so glad that other writers worked together in a writers room to create the stories and plan it all out, and that said writers will be writing the actual individual scripts (and I strongly believe that all intellectual properties benefit greatly from other creative minds adding to it). It certainly guarantees far better dialog imho, and has me very interested to see what the Avatar world combined with good stories will be like.

  • southafricanguy

    But it must be said that in terms if dialog we would also have to hand it to Aliens….that film is infinitely quotable.

  • ErnestRister

    No argument, there…although Ripley sounds just like James Cameron in a bad mood. Hat tip to the entire cast of that film. Not a weak link in the ensemble. Everyone nailed it.

  • southafricanguy

    it’s certainly worth the viewing for the mo cap CGI. You can see that a ton of effort was put into it.

  • Stalk👁

    XD XD

  • ErnestRister

    No, here’s the truth, and trust me, I’ve spent decades trying to figure this out. American males hit puberty and depending on what region of the U.S, you live in, teen males are actively socially shamed for watching animated works. The medium became so identified with children’s entertainment, when males hit puberty in the U.S., their own fathers shame them for watching cartoons. Yes, it’s true. Yes. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Called out my own brother in law who was angry at his son for watching a Donald Duck cartoon.

    It isn’t until males self-actualize after they escape high school that they feel safe in embracing animated films. It has nothing to do with moral relativism. Teenage males are the target market for the film industry, and the hardest market to crack for animation. It’s a big problem for the industry, and the industry has largely given up. Animated features these days are pitched towards 30+ year old women with kids, and kids under the age of 12. The only animated feature in Disney’s pipeline with a male lead is Gigantic, and Brad Bird’s Incredibles sequel which is miles and miles away from release. In the meantime, you get Judy Hopps, Dory, Moana, Star Wars Rogue One…

  • ErnestRister

    Storm of the Century is a lot of fun.

  • southafricanguy

    interesting. Do you think that extends to the mostly American constant complaining about CGI in modern films while constantly waxing nostalgic about practical effects regardless of the fact that most of what is seen in modern sci fi and fantasy would be damn near impossible, impractical, or cost prohibitive using said practical effects.

  • southafricanguy

    Thats how I found it after a recent rewatch. I was surprised how much it has held up.

  • southafricanguy

    At the very least…..say what you will about Herr Emmerich, but the man knows how to show epic scale on film and you see every cent of his budget up on the screen too.

  • southafricanguy

    dear lord…..2012 is just soooo bad…

  • southafricanguy

    as it damn well should be lol

  • southafricanguy

    Aliens is maybe the most rock n roll sci fi film ever made in terms of the pure adrenaline.

  • southafricanguy

    Its a toss up for me between Aliens and T2. Both are simply genius sequels.

  • ErnestRister

    Still better than Godzilla 98. Of course, intestinal parasites are still better than Godzilla 98.

  • Tarmac492.1

    That first action scene when those fuckers come out of the wall to the landing pod crashing and stranding them is about the closest you can come to skydiving in the movie theater. Game over, man.

  • Tarmac492.1

    will def see the 2nd. Prob not in the movies. Unless some cute 26 year old girl wants me to take her and than she will blow me all night while I tell her “Now thats what I call a CLose Encounter.’

  • Tarmac492.1

    I enjoyed Mangold’s take. Thought it would be better, but def enjoyed it.

  • Tarmac492.1

    I take this was an insult?

  • Tarmac492.1

    Yup. Total agreement with your assessment . Exorcisms, to me, are not scary at all, save for the original. I also like The Last Exorcism. Will prob see Conjuring 2 this weekend.

  • Tarmac492.1

    Christ should battle Satan with lighsabers in hell. To be honest, Gibson would knock that out of the park.

  • Tarmac492.1

    thats a nice run if he only had it done a little bit ago.

  • Tarmac492.1

    Because we cant get beer in a fucking McDonald’s here.

  • Tarmac492.1

    Hmm, I think you are right . However, I thought his dialogue was quite good in his early stuff, flowed quite naturally. perhaps a tad macho, but very believable. I dont think he ever got out of the early twentieth century starchy dialogue since Titanic.

  • Dee-abolik

    you bet

  • Tarmac492.1

    my complaint as an American about cgi is that it leaves too little for the imagination for the most part. And in doing that I feel the writing suffers. I also think that in a lesser filmmaker’s hands cgi can be a crutch. I do hate CGI blood and a few other things but it is a great tool. I would rather see it used more like Spielberg did in the original JP than how it was used in Jurassic World.

  • Tarmac492.1

    somehow I would like to see this.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    “A sense of artless perfunctory rote utility surrounds his dialog.”

    That applies only to Titanic and Avatar. It does not apply to his earlier works which, while hardly David Mamet, Paddy Chayefsky or William Goldman, were nonetheless spiked with punchy action dialogue and chock-full of quotable lines and exchanges. I never heard any complaints about Cameron’s dialogue until Titanic; quite the opposite, in fact. He is more than capable of turning out good dialogue if he puts his mind to it. I believe he lamented that Avatar was so difficult to set-up in terms of the tech that he had less time to focus on the script, and that he intends to rectify this with the sequels. Titanic’s weaknesses in the dialogue department I attribute to the fact that he was writing a period drama, out of his comfort zone, and which requires a refined skillset.

    As for his characters, that’s a complete misrepresentation of them, also. Cameron is famous for his propulsive action narratives, full of proactive protagonists; he isn’t making subtle character studies. But Cameron’s characters were nonetheless human, believable and relatable, and were balanced out with vulnerable qualities. There was always a very clear sense of what they were about and what their motivations were, and much of their spunk was a retaliation against the injustices and/or responsibilities thrust upon them.

    Cameron’s females were TRUE action heroines: as I said, strong, proactive characters, not aggressive, hostile assholes as you contend, placed in extraordinary situations and put under considerable pressure. They were quite different from the contrived, PC, mock-tough female “badasses” of today’s genre flicks (“guys with tits,” as the man himself mocked), and modern screenwriters could learn a thing or two from them. If you want to see what you describe, watch Charlie’s Angels or the Resident Evil movies, not Cameron’s oeuvre.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    “although Ripley sounds just like James Cameron in a bad mood.”

    Bullshit. She’s entirely consistent with what was established in the first movie (“We’ll seal every bulkhead and airduct until we corner it, and then blow it the fuck out into space. Is that acceptable to you?!”).

    Ripley is magnificent in Aliens, a defining cinematic archetype and a very well-developed character to boot; it’s no accident that Weaver was nominated for an Academy Award for the role.

    KilliK was right, Ernest. Stick to the Disney movies.

  • ErnestRister

    “Hippy? That guy don’t know his butt from a rat hole!”

    Yeah. Before Titanic.

  • Turd Has Escaped The Gravy

    What? You think that cherry picking a single line (which is not particularly poor, either, just a little on the nose) is some kind of knock-out blow? What about the numerous other great exchanges in The Abyss – or, indeed, his other movies?

    “God, I hate that bitch.”
    “Probably shouldn’t have married her then, huh?”

    “It’s not easy being a cast-iron bitch. It takes discipline, and years of training… A lot of people don’t appreciate that.”

    “These guys are SEALS?
    “Eh. These guys ain’t so tough. I fought guys plenty tougher’n them.”
    “Now we get to hear how you “coulda been a contender”?”

    “This tell us how much radiation we’re getting?”
    “Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I’m not going near no radiation. No way.”
    “Aw Hippy, you pussy.”
    “Yeah, what good is the money, six months later your dick drops off? ”

    “You See this? (raises fist) They used to call it the hammer.”
    “Hippy wasn’t born then”

    All great, naturalistic, punchy blue-collar dialogue, and believable camaraderie between a fantastic ensemble.

    Cut the crap, Ernest.

  • ErnestRister

    As I said, I have no interest in trying to antagonize or argue with either you or Killik regarding Mr. Cameron. I have felt for a long time he would be be well served by hiring people to come on board and polish up his dialog. It’s not exactly a rare opinion, either. He’s a fantastic filmmaker, one of the all-time greats. He’s not the first writer to suffer through the syndrome of characters inevitably sounding like the writer, sharing the same voice. Cameron is blunt, he has no time for fineries, he has big projects to complete, has no patience for things slowing him down. His characters share his voice. He ain’t great with natural dialog. He’s awesome everywhere else — the man coached a good performance out of Tom Arnold, to the amazement of all. He is who he is. Nothing wrong with that, I’m excited to see him bring in a team to write the Avatar sequels.

    I don’t know how many times or how many ways I have to say it, but this might just be the last time…I am not your friend and I am not your enemy. I would much prefer to call you friend. I have never insulted you nor antagonized you or treated you with disrespect, nor anyone in this communtiy who was honest. I have repeatedly said when this community was unified, we were about to shock the world. I stood on the sidelines and watched everything fall to pieces. People can try and bait me into insults and arguments, it ain’t gonna work. It didn’t work in 10th grade, it ain’t happening now.

  • southafricanguy

    and didnt Mangold come onto the production at a somewhat late stage (after DA suddenly dropped out)…so I will also give him the benefit of the doubt that the film’s weak points were already there in the script, storyboards etc…

    Yet he still made a pretty good character piece, that mostly focused on the characters (and a cool Japanese setting) that worked well until the somewhat tacked on descent into typical superhero territory at the end. So mostly succeeded at making a superhero film that did not feel like a typical superhero film.

    With Mangold doing this one right from the get go…I think Woverine 3 could be the best yet.

  • southafricanguy

    absofuckinglutely……one of the most pure moments of adrenaline ever captured on film. You feel like it’s happening to you

  • southafricanguy

    Oh sure…Godzilla 98 Is bad…..but somewhat entertaining…..2012 IS not only bad….it’s straight up boring…..and then there is 10,000 BC…..it’s like watching paint dry while being repeatedly hit in the head…

  • southafricanguy

    Cameron has always done great female characters….and not in some pc bullshit way…but truly great characters that just happened to be women.

  • Stalkeye

    The first movie lost my interest since President “Top Gun’s” hamfisted speech and before that, Will Smith knocking out an Alien and let’s not how forget their Superdog that can leap through explosions! Let us know how the sequel is.
    Hopefully, you will publish a review here.

  • Stalkeye

    Universal Soldier had plenty of potential but the script was godawful and not to mention JCVD needing to “cool down” every second to the extent that hilarity ensued. Rich Buckler creator of Marvel’s Deathlok claimed that it ripped off his comic.

  • Stalkeye

    This video is worse than the Movie it tried to promote!!

  • southafricanguy

    Dude….Emmerich is nothing if not derivative as fuck

  • southafricanguy

    Well…I never said it was a good movie….just that I enjoyed it. It’s one of those movies I would class as entertaining but that I certainly cannot defend as a good film in terms of the criteria by which a film would be considered a good work of art.

    I guess I look forward to the sequel in part because I myself am getting a bit worn out on superhero movies and I’m just looking forward to some good old fashioned Sci fi alien invasion as an alternative

  • southafricanguy

    Hmm….well I will be seeing it two days before it gets released in the US. So I might just write a review….

  • Stalkeye

    Looking forward to it, friend.

  • Stalkeye

    I know. it’s one of those guilty pleasure films almost like me with the B grade stuff from that decade like I come in Peace or Showdown in Little Toyko…but then again, the aforementioned films might be considered minor cult classics now that i think of it.

  • Stalkeye

    Next to that film, Robocop and the Terminator, that’s the closest I’ll ever get to seeing a Deathlok Movie on screen.